The Hat vs The Vest - THE BCS NC Thread

Yes, it is how the players play in college that matters, not how they did in high school, and not where they get drafted in the NFL draft (NFL is a full-time job, college football is an extracurricular, just because a guy goes in the 1st round doesn't mean he should have been a great college star, it just means he has what it takes to thrive in a full-time football job like the NFL).

I don't know who AJ Hawk or Justin Zwick are, but we have had plenty of 3 star recruits that became superstars and plenty of 5 star recruits that became failures. I've seen it with many programs over the years. Remember ND's Ron Powlus? The guy was one of the best HS quarterbacks in history when he went to ND. Have you ever heard of him? Down here at LSU, we had Josh Booty (the older brother of USC's current QB). The guy shattered every national high school QB record in history, then played for LSU and was a joke. But my point is that the overall team recruiting rankings I gave you are accurate. Go look at those overall team recruiting rankings I posted, do you dispute that those are are the most talented teams in college football? It foolish of you that you didn't even address this issue.

Secondly, as we both agree, it is how the players play in college that matters, not how they did in high school. That's why I gave you those Rival Power Rankings (which rank how the players are currently playing in college football). You didn't even comment on those, which makes you seem like a fool. Do you agree with those Rival Power Rankings of your team or not? Do you agree that Ohio State has a #25 QB, a #4 RB, a #16 WR, a #3 guy on the OL, a #6 guy on the OL, a #2 LB, and a #4 CB? Or do you disagree with that. It's foolish that you ignored all that when you wrote your reply. Come on, I live in Louisiana, you live in Ohio, you're supposed to be smarter that me. You've got to represent.

 

Making those decisions doesn't mean he's a bad coach...It's just different styles...Big 10 coaches are conservative, just like NFL coaches...Those decisions make for more exciting games and show how much he trusts the players...I'd rather have a coach that is willing to make gutsy decisions and take the criticism if they fail or give credit to the players for executing, than a coach that plays it safe just cause he doesn't wanna screw up.

 

i was bored, so i made this animated banner:

 

Good points. I understand the benefits of playing it conservative, but I myself love the gutsy-call-style of coaching for many reasons -- and yes, two of those reasons include that 1) it makes for more exciting games and 2) it shows how much the coach trusts his players (jacks up the moral of both our team and our fans in the stadium). And yes, I'd rather have a coach that is willing to make gutsy decisions than a coach that plays it safe just cause he doesn't wanna screw up.

Look at today's Saints vs. Bucs game. With two minutes left in the game, down by 3, the Bucs have a 3rd down and 2. They run the ball with an ex-Florida Gators RB, and he gets stuffed, but falls forward for a yard. It's 4th and 1. The Bucs are within FG range. The Bucs are down by 3. All they have to do is kick the FG and go to OT. But Gruden goes for it. I loved it. The ex-Florida Gator RB got the 1st down and the Bucs went on to a big win, probably ruining the Saints' chance at going to the playoffs.

One of my favorite examples is how, at the end of the 1983 college football season, Tom Osborne's #1 Nebraska team (12-0) scored late in the Orange Bowl against #5 Miami (10-1) to make the score Nebraska 30 Miami 31. Nebraska was the only undefeated team in the country. Every other team had 1 loss. All Osborne had to do was kick the PAT for a tie (there was no overtime in college football back then), and Nebraska would finish #1 in the country. But Osborne was like, screw that, if we are #1, then we are going to go for the 2 point conversion and go out on a win. The 2 point conversion failed, and Miami became the National Champions. But if I were a Nebraska fan, I would have loved Osborne for making that call, even though the call was retarded from a conservative perspective.

 

I am an Ohio State Alum. I found my way to this board through a poster at BuckeyePlanet.com.

I have a couple of questions.

Who did you guys least likely want to face in the National Championship game?

If Les Miles were to leave LSU for Michigan, who would you want to coach LSU?

Do you honestly believe LSU will blow out OSU?

GO BUCKS!

 

Yeah when it hits a brick wall :lol: Ours is named Vernon Gholston

 

1). Georgia- They are clicking on all cylinders right now.

2). Jack Del Rio

3). If we can eliminate the costly mental errors and start "clicking on all
cylinders"(like we were playing at the beginning of the season-
example; VaTech game) Then the answer to your #3 question is YES!

 

You are mistaken. The pass play you mention was vs Auburn and time would not have ran out because an incompletion would have stopped the clock and the refs would have adjusted the clock back to about 4 seconds. LSU still had a timeout they could have used and kicked field goal. But let's assume you are correct and we play for the field goal. What happens if it is blocked or bad snap, etc. Going for the TD is always a better play. The fourth down play is risky but a field goal would have left UF time to make a drive on a short field with our defense being tired. I believe the object of the game is to win not tie. If you have a feel for your team then you can make decisions which to other uninformed or uneducated observers may seem to be ignorant. I hope that is the Big Ten mindset though and ya'll play for field goals in the NC game. I know LSU will be playing for TD's. Have a Great Day!:geauxtige :LSU231:

 

Welcome to the board. To answer your questions:

1) The team I least wanted to see in the NC is West Virigina because they have a running QB. Although I think we would outscore them, that type of offense gives our D fits, so that may have been a frustrating game to watch.

2) Jack Del Rio

3) There's no way we will blow out OSU. You guys have a chip on your shoulder from last year, coupled with your 0-8 record all time in bowls against the SEC means OSU will be extremely motivated. We'll have the speed advantage, but OSU is smart football team and your defense is pretty good, so I don't think this will be an easy game for us at all.

 

haha, Dana Jacobson just called Mark Richt, "Mike" twice.

He stopped whining though. He "just wants to be in the top 5".