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  1. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    thats because the media tells the sheeple what the offense of the day is. fatties now take a backseat unless they're lesbians. although this bullying bullshit along with fat lesbians should cover christies ample ass.


    and this is what insurance companies were lead to believe when this was first introduced. and this is now why they rarely cover this.
     
  2. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Unwind kemosabe. I am not running but I am voting....and so are all the people who ARE running. My "we" was a collective reference, not specific to just myself. Regular folks and candidates should complain.

    The 9th circuit weighing in makes it far more than a school rule, even if it's not a specific piece of legislation. And for all intents and purposes regarding student free speech, it is the "law".

    A court decision is considered standing law if the opinion is published. The court is supposed to publish opinions that set precedent. Precedent is defined as "clarifying law" or a case of "first impression" (something not previously decided). This case was unique from prior decision because the displaying/wearing of the American flag was the point of contention and the school administrators had said they were fearful of violence but allowed the school to go ahead with celebrations and allowed the Mexican student to wear their "colors".

    They become "law" because they can be relied upon my other courts, particularly lower courts. Courts of the same level do not have to follow the decision, but generally do.

    Even if a decision does not become "law" because there is a split of decision for example (ie another court of the same level that decided an issue differently), a decision has a chilling effect. In other words, the fact that the decision is out there, alone, is sufficient, to cause most schools/businesses/people to follow the decision for fear of the repercussions if they do not. There is perhaps no snowballing precisely because of this decision. And yes, Miguel Rodriguez, the assistant principal who told the American students to go home or turn their shirts inside out, retired, and then died.
     
  3. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Will it cover Hillary's?
     
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  4. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Yeah that's it, you know nothing Jon Snow.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Because he doesn't.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That's what I'm getting at. The rule and the decision were sobering for schools, but so was the huge backlash against the school and its administrators. The ruling does not force schools to make similar rules, just gives them some precedence if they do. But the backlash should be an inhibiting factor and influence them to find another way to deal with troublemakers than doing something that is symbolically outrageous.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    So now you're calling kids who proudly display the American flag troublemakers? Unbelievable, even for you.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No, Gilligan. How wrong can you get? This is what happens when you try to put words into my mouth. Why don't you just speak for yourself? I can speak for myself quite well without your usual bizarre and confusing interpretations, thank you.

    The school administrator's reason for foolishly sending home the American flag wearing kids was that there had been fights between certain hispanic and anglo students that they wanted to avoid. Troublemakers on both sides. Got that? What I actually said, very clearly, was that they should find a better way to deal with troublemakers on campus than picking one side and doing something as outrageous as what they did. If flags were the problem, get rid of all flags. But if the problem is fighting, deal with the fighters like teachers have done for centuries. This is not the only thing that kids fight over! They fight over girls, running shoes, dirty looks, you name it. There is no way to remove all things that might offend people. They learned that trying to do so only offends other people.

    They should deal with the people that fight instead making symbolic gestures that backfire. You get into fight . . . you get suspended. Instead they allowed themselves to get caught up in issues and tripped all over their peckers.
     
  9. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Take a chill pill Grumpy. I just took a page from the Red55 handbook to selectively pick out a sentence or two in a post to attack while ignoring the rest. It's something you do all the time.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Of course I comment on things I disagree with. But I don't make something up and say you said it. Unbelievable, even for you.
     

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