The Candidate (Coaching List to Replace O)

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  1. MobileBengal

    MobileBengal Founding Member

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    I'm in!
     
  2. furduknfish

    furduknfish #ohnowesuckagain

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    To answer your question, I dont think any coach is coming here without a guarantee that they will be given at least 5yrs. Oddly enough Napier might might be in the low to middle end. The bigger names from bigger schools would demand even more time/$. Cough, Jimbo....
     
  3. LSU_4_LIFE

    LSU_4_LIFE Founding Member

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    Alleged insider on TOS saying that 3 assistant coaches have been told by Woody and are actively telling recruits they’re being retained.

    Also that a deal with our new HC is all but done.

    A lot of speculation it’s Jimbo, Aranda or Napier.

    If it’s true about the 3 coaches being retained, Aranda makes the most sense as he’s worked directly with at least 3 coaches still on staff and he wouldn’t need to interview them to know he wants to keep them like a new face would.

    Either that or the new coach is familiar enough with them and understands how important these 3 are to recruiting and keeping them is a no brainer.

    Still some smoke around Riley as well but I think that’s far fetched. More names being tossed around Bob Stoops, Matt Rhule, and Chris Petersen.
     
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  4. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    I need to look up LSU's current odds. USC attracts the biggest names obviously. Odds on what ailment Urban Meyer retires should be listed. I never thought about it but what a stupid name.
    FAVORITES TO BE NEXT USC COACH
    • Luke Fickell +600
    • James Franklin +600
    • Chris Petersen +700
    • Bob Stoops +800
    • Matt Campbell +1000
    • PJ Fleck +1000
    • Bill O’Brien +1100
    • Urban Meyer +1200
    • Mario Cristobal +1500
    • Gary Patterson +1800
    • Tony Elliott +2000
    • Lane Kiffin +3000

    In other Campbell-USC rumors, CBS Sports’ Dennis Dodd put Campbell on his list, although he added it’s Luke Fickell’s to turn town.

    But on Campbell, Dodd reported:

    Perhaps the No. 1 developmental coach in the country. Think what he could do with the talent USC attracts. Campbell has turned down significant NFL interest. Insiders say he’d be interested Notre Dame and Ohio State. USC is certainly in that orbit.



    But let’s all remember something important Matt Campbell said at Big 12 media days when he was asked why he was still at Iowa State.

    “Simply, I didn’t get in this profession to be someone, I got in this to do something,” Campbell said. “You’re either trying to be someone else or you’re trying to do something. What I love about football is to teach and coach.”

    Many outside of Ames continue to still not understand why Campbell is still in Ames. And I’m sure that answer won’t appease those who don’t cover him and don’t really appreciate what Matt Campbell is all about. They’ll see that as coach speak, as they’ve heard similar things from other coaches who jump at the next better job opening.

    But Campbell has continued to put his money where his mouth is, turning down more money and “better jobs”, and continuing to sign extensions at Iowa State. This offseason, he signed another extension through the 2028 season.

    Odds for the next LSU head coach:
    • James Franklin +400
    • Lane Kiffin +500
    • Mel Tucker +500
    • Jimbo Fisher +700
    • Billy Napier +800
    • Dave Aranda +900
    • Luke Fickell +1000
    • Mark Stoops +1100
    • Joe Brady +1200
    • Mario Cristobal +1400
    • Bob Stoops +1500
    • Bill O’Brien +1700
    • Hugh Freeze +2000
    i know its jimbo as soon as i saw that denial 101 video.


    a lot of crossover here. who would yall want. tucker or jimbo.
     
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  5. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Fuuuuuck… :( I’d probably chose tucker over Jimbo.

    This makes me want Campbell more.
     
  6. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    I dont know anything im just saying.. if we're honest we should all know its gotta be a black dude right? ryan Clark will likely be our compliance director. this hire could be really bad or really good.
     
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  7. Herb

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    Did it ever occur to you that an African American coach might actually have an advantage over a white coach if roughly 70% of recruits and players already on the team are African American?
    Do you ever pause to think that a black 5 star recruit might be inspired to come and play at LSU if the head coach looks more like him than a white coach?
    Did you ever contemplate that a black football player on LSU's roster might dig deeper and give more on the field if the man coaching the team is a role model that reminds him of the men in his life and family more than a white head coach ever could?
    Do you think that a black head coach could possibly relate more to the roughly 70% of the players on LSU's roster in any given year that are black and be able to motivate them better because he was just like them during his playing days?
    Why is it that you never ever say that you hope a white coach is not hired simply because he is white instead of being hired because he is qualified?

    I realize - in your own words - that you are "A white guy still searching for the privilege I am supposed to have", but have you ever thought that the reason LSU has never had a black head coach might be due to a legacy of both conscious and unconscious bias that have prevented non-white candidates from ever having been given a fair chance and that perhaps it might not have had anything to do with actual coaching ability and qualifications?

    Given that you spent the greater part of the last several years defending Orgeron, what qualifications did he have over African American coaches that got him hired at LSU and - in your mind - were there ANY African American head coaches that are better coaches than Ed Orgeron who might have been a better choice?

    There are many here that are tired of your proactive belly aching in advance of a potential black man being hired as LSU's head coach because it would be a "Woke hire" instead of a hire of a man that would be qualified if Woodward decides to hire a black head coach.

    This might be a hard concept for you and fellow minded people to wrap their heads around, but there is no such thing as one candidate to be "more qualified" than another in any hire or selection process. The concept of "qualification" is a minimum threshold for any job or position.

    You can think of it as being like the red line when you board a roller coaster on the sign that says "You must be this tall to ride this ride". Being taller does not make you "more qualified" to ride that roller coaster than anyone else who is taller than that red line.

    Scott Woodward has a list of qualifications that each candidate must meet in order for him to consider them as a head coach.

    Let's assume the following candidates meet whatever qualifications Woodward has defined:
    • Billy Napier
    • Pete Carrol
    • Mel Tucker
    • James Franklin
    • Nick Saban
    • Matt Campbell
    If each of those candidates meet the qualifications Woodward has set out for his next hire, then there is nobody on that list that is "more qualified" than any other candidate. There may be some whose past success makes them appear more likely to succeed but as long as they meet the qualifications set out, they are all equally qualified.
     
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  8. kluke

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    I don't see Riley coming here, but I'd take him for sure. So...
    For me Tucker and Fickell are tied for first choice, I'm not sure if either would be long term. Tucker may yern for pro, Fickell could jump at the chance to be the next Ohio coach.
    Second tier Aranda, Napier, Franklin in no order. Each has positive and negative that balance out.
    Third tier Jimbo over Kiffin. The extra bennifit to both is smacking a rival. Especially A&M who would go nuclear. It would be fun
     
  9. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I selected this portion because this is where you ranted right into the ditch. I personally don't care what color the new coach is. I don't care if he has 14 toes or no toes, 3 ears whatever. I care if the MFr can coach. There are certainly guys out there that are better than others and that is called a qualification
     
  10. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    Agree. I'm one of the many.
     
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