The Candidate (Coaching List to Replace O)

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  1. LSU_4_LIFE

    LSU_4_LIFE Founding Member

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    Its very sad.

    The Right to free speech only applies to certain people regarding certain speech. Otherwise your ass is canceled. It’s sad and pathetic.
     
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  2. rockwallfan

    rockwallfan Founding Member

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    You ever see film of Saban at recruits home visits? He's dancing hip hop and anything else that gets them to like him. I don't know his politics but I'd guess he refrains from praising 45, at least in public. If the majority of your players are African American you'd better adjust your way of thinking.
     
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  3. Kikicaca

    Kikicaca Meaux

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    Here we are talking about players cancelling O and not playing for him like spoiled children because he doesn't agree with BLM. Apparently this looks like a big part of his firing. Now I am starting to belive my coaching connection saying he heard it will have to be a minority coach. Makes more sense now. So the best available coach may get passed up for this. Man I hope he is wrong. That would be like us passing up a better qualified minority coach just to hire a white coach. Please please let this not hapoen.
     
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  4. Don Castavez

    Don Castavez Still liking scotch

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    They have ruined it . Look at the daily bullshit espn shovels . They piss down their leg every time a black man takes a snap from center
     
  5. Don Castavez

    Don Castavez Still liking scotch

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    Tucker does not have the credentials. I don’t care if he’s calico. Franklin? Ehhhh not my cup
    Of tea but he’s been at the helm of a major program and he’s got some juice .
    I’ve decided my top 3
    Fickell , Laneykins , Aranda .... of course if Ms Cristobal needs a tour guide around the city .......
     
  6. kluke

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    I said this before in this or another thread. Ed's failure last year with the march was that he was caught by surprise. He wasn't aware of an important event to the team until it had already happened. It wasn't about his position or what he believed or any of that; its that he was not close enough to his team, via the team leadership, to know what was important with them. He should have had himself or someone for him regularly touching base with the people on the team to see how they were doing.

    That's what I did with my analyst when we started working from home and i didn't see them everyday. You need to talk more when your not face to face, because you miss a lot when you can't see body language.
     
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  7. furduknfish

    furduknfish #ohnowesuckagain

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    Thought he was out getting more red bull.

    In all seriousness, I dont think any of these players intentionally tanked given most know it might impact their possible future NFL payday, opt outs and transfers notwithstanding. I think this is just the woke media taking a cheapshot to keep their narative alive.
     
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  8. Kikicaca

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    I watched an Aggie game because my wife is an Aggie fan, oh the horror. I remember that the Calzada guy had to play QB because the starter was hurt the game before. ESPN had to harp on and tell us all that Calzada was the first Latino QB at A&M. Who gives one rats ass what Calzada's race is other than that Kirk Herbstreit infested woke network.
     
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  9. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    This is not to absolve Conte of all blame. Of course he has to do his job and not let someone run right by him when he doesn't have help over the top. He also missed an interception that should've sealed the game. He messes up regularly; it is who he is.

    Yet he was never benched, not even for a single snap. In fact, Tucker didn't bench a single player for performance reasons all season.

    A good coach doesn't keep asking players to do what they're incapable of.

    t would be hard to say Anthony Walters isn't an upgrade. We'll never know because Tucker never bothered to try to find out. It's hard to see how Walters could have been worse.

    Conte is just an example of players Tucker stuck with for no good reason.

    There's no good reason Shea McClellin should've been playing over David Bass. McClellin isn't capable of holding up against the run. It was proven week after week. Yet Tucker kept starting him, and the Bears kept getting gashed on the ground.

    They had injuries, but this isn't the first time a Bears team has had injuries. They're also not the only NFL team to suffer injuries. Yet that is the excuse Tucker has been given.

    Lovie Smith had years with injuries.

    In 2009 they had two starting linebackers—including Brian Urlacher— miss at least 14 games. Up front they started Anthony Adams and Marcus Harrison at defensive tackle next to a washed-up Tommie Harris with washed-up defensive ends Adewale Ogunleye and Alex Brown. Al Afalava started 13 games at safety that season, Kevin Payne added five starts and Josh Bullocks got four. Zackary Bowman was the corner opposite Charles Tillman.


    That defense gave up 375 points and was ranked 21st in scoring. A worse roster, but much better results.

    The Bears had injuries last season. Urlacher was gimpy at the beginning and missed the last few games. Henry Melton missed a couple games, Tim Jennings missed a couple games and Julius Peppers played the whole season with plantar fasciitis.

    Yet they were arguably the best defense in the league. How did they drop so far so fast?

    Nobody expected the Bears to still be a dominant unit with the number of injuries they had. However, there's no reason they should've been as bad as they were. They were as bad as they possibly could've been.

    It isn't as if they were good before injuries destroyed their lineup. Through four games, the Bears gave up 28.5 points per game, 23.2 if you subtract the scores by the opposing defenses and special teams.

    Prior to the season, the argument was that Tucker's defenses always stunk because the players he had always stunk. How is that possible? Isn't he involved in the draft process? Shouldn't a good coach get more out of his players? It can't be argued that Tucker does that.

    If one guy is always coaching bad defenses, it can't be that the players are always bad. Terry Shea had injuries and bad players in his first years as the Bears offensive coordinator in 2004, but that doesn't mean he was a bad coordinator.

    Perhaps the biggest indictment of Tucker is that the Bears defense got worse as the season progressed.


    Injuries were the excuse used, yet when Lance Briggs came back in Week 16, they gave up 449 rushing yards and 80 points in their last two games. They also added Jeremiah Ratliff during the season but saw no improvement.

    Blown coverages and missed tackles are staples of a Tucker-led defense.

    Perhaps an even more inexplicable play came on Jarrett Boykin's fumble return for a touchdown. Julius Peppers forced a fumble and the ball sat on the ground for awhile, yet no Bears player made an attempt to pick it up.

    James Anderson looked at it and walked right by the loose ball. Boykin then picked it up and ran it in for a touchdown.

    Maybe the players should know to pick that ball up, but maybe it should be coached to the point where it's a habit? Under Smith, the Bears never let a ball lay on the ground—something one of his former players noted.

    The Bears finished this season ranked 29th in yards allowed and 30th in scoring defense. It was the fourth time in six seasons that a defense called by Tucker has finished in the bottom 10 in scoring defense. The only years Tucker has coached a defense that finished in the top half of the league in scoring defense, he was under head coaches with defensive backgrounds.

    For comparison's sake, Dom Capers has had that happen just five times in 20 seasons as a defensive coordinator and head coach, and he took over two expansion franchises.


    The first warning sign may have been when Tucker arrived in Chicago and decided to stick with the Bears' previous scheme and terminology. I understand the "don't fix what isn't broken" philosophy, but a good coach should have confidence in what he does and how he does it.

    The simple fact is Tucker isn't good at his job and never has been. The Bears will be best off moving on to someone who can build a defense from scratch. That is what they need right now, and there's no reason to think Tucker is capable of getting them back to respectability.
     
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  10. Kikicaca

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    Pulled this part from an SI piece on Orgeron. This part explains a lot.

    But the losses on the field are a direct result of the off-the-field problems, sources claim. The 5–5 season came only after a turbulent summer in Baton Rouge, where players, as they did at many other programs after a police officer murdered a Black Minneapolis man named George Floyd, staged a march across campus to protest social injustice and support the Black Lives Matter movement. At LSU, it took a different turn.

    Two weeks before the march, Orgeron appeared on a Fox News segment where the host asked him repeated questions about the post-championship trip to the White House and his thoughts on then-President Donald Trump. He said he “loved” Trump and that “he’s doing a fantastic job.” Amid the pandemic and in an election year, it was a startling comment for the leader of a largely Black football team during one of the most divisive times in the country’s history.

    Word about the television comments reached the team. One former player even weighed in on Twitter. Orgeron is a “great man,” but he is “blind to everything else,” defensive end K’Lavon Chaisson tweeted.
     

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