The 9/11 Mega Mosque

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  1. Ahab the Arab

    Ahab the Arab Veteran Member

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    Nonsense! If you loved freedom, you would understand that it must always be protected and closely guarded.

    You haven’t either cause it couldn’t be more obvious that you are totally oblivious.
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    My wife's best friend is Muslim. And i happen to know she is one of the most peaceful girls i have ever met. Not every muslim is a "death the infidels" muslim. Just like every christian isn't lining up to blow up abortion clinics. What you are doing is lumping an entire group of people together and it is completely ignorant.
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    You are not listening. I don't care if there are muslims lined up outside my door to give me money and virgins and to bathe me in the fountain of youth. I don't want a mosque next to the place where 3000 innocent civilians lost their lives because of radical muslims. I don't hate good people, but that's not the point.
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    so if you were mayor you would ban the mosque? what would your logic be? "i dont like it" doesnt count.

    you would lose in court for sure. there is nothing you can do to stop people from having religious freedom.

    or is your point "if i were mayor i would allow it, i just am pointing out that i do not like it".

    facts:


    • you cant ban the mosque; it cant be stopped

    • you shouldnt want to, but then again i cant tell you what you should or shouldnt want.

    • the mosque will be built.

    • there is really nothing wrong with the mosque.

    i dont like that there are so many churches so close to the wtc site. i hate that the killers believed in the afterlife, which allowd them to do such terrible things, and there are tons of churches nearby all teaching that the afterlife is true.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    hey at least we will know where all the muslims around that area will be hanging out right?
     
  6. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Says the guy who changes the definition of religion to discriminate against muslims.

    You make no sense.
     
  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I don't have any power and I am in no position to ban anything. It's just my opinion that the damn mosque shouldn't be anywhere near ground zero.

    If you're waiting for me to suddenly see the light based upon a wondrous post of yours, we are going to be here for a long time.
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    again, i understand your personal opinion. would you be happy if your opinion was the official policy and the mosque was banned? do you think that would be smart policy?
     
  9. Ahab the Arab

    Ahab the Arab Veteran Member

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    A Muslim who accepts that society need not be ordered as Allah ordered it, is not a Muslim.

    Anyone who blows up an abortion clinic isn’t a Christian. He’s a mental nut case, as nothing contained in the teachings, texts, and tenets of Christianity remotely condones or advocates the blowing up of abortion clinics. Which is why in stark contrast to Muslim silence to terrorist attacks you always see Christians forcefully denouncing those attacks.

    However, with respect to Islam, on the other hand, Muslims always go out of their way to justify their terrorist attacks by citing the specific Koranic verses, the particular Hadith, and the exegesis of famous tafsirs. In other words, a Muslim terrorist is a devout pious Muslim.

    One of the biggest differences between Christianity and Islam is that violence is anathema to Christianity, as Jesus Christ preached to turn the other cheek and to pray for your enemies, whereas Allah through Muhammad commands all Muslims to force all unbelievers by any means possible to submit to the authority of Islam or die.

    Now, if Islam was a faith-based religion like Christianity, an adherent could simply reject those commands and leave the religion. However, in the case of Islam, which is a religion of submission where the freedom of conscience is forbidden under the pain of death, rejecting that command or leaving Islam, either one of them or both, can get a Muslim killed. Hence, your religious relativism and ignorance is utterly astonishing.

    They don’t need me to lump them together, they lumped themselves together with the Muslim people are the best of people garbage, with them dividing the world between the Muslims and the unbelievers, and with them dividing the world into Dar al Islam, the realm of submission where Islam reigns supreme and the Dar al Harb, the realm of war where Islam must be made to reign supreme.
     
  10. Ahab the Arab

    Ahab the Arab Veteran Member

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    Nonsense! The constitution isn’t a suicide pact, Islam in stark contrast to faith-based religions, is a religion of submission that forbids the freedom of conscience under the pain of death, but the religious aspects of Islam just serve as window dressing for what Islam really is, which is a very radical form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination. Hence, because Islam mixes totalitarianism with religion it makes for a particularly toxic brew. Nevertheless, the first amendment provides exactly zero protection for radical forms of totalitarianism that seeks world domination like Islam.
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