you should learn to separate symbolism from substance. i encourage muslims to spout hate and build mosques and be as loony talkin as they want. surely you see the difference between that and actual violence? allowing muslims religious freedom to build a mosque does not encourage them to blow us up. and even if it did, that shouldnt matter. even if building the mosque meant that some lunatic would be emboldened and go b low something up, that doesnt matter. we cant allow them to make us alter the way we allow expression and religion. long story short, we dont let them change us, we dont let them make us into the people that ban places of worship. whoever is sad about it can cry me a river. thanks
Bus Islam is a religion of submission and not a religion of Faith like scientology, so because it is a religion of submission we should not allow it to be practiced. The Constitution only protects religions of faith.
The symbolism of the towers falling is all 99.99% of radical muslims will ever know, since they were not on the planes. The symbolism of the mosque at ground zero will have a negative effect for us also. Just like the pictures from Abu ghraib had a positive effect on radical recruitment with the intent of harming Americans, so will the reality of this mosque. I never said it did. You should try to stay more focused. I said building a mosque at ground zero will do this. Your assertion that it will have no effect on radicals is ludicrous. Focus martin, focus. I said the law allows them to build it and they should not be stopped based on the constitution. I have not suggested that it be stopped, so we are in agreement there. But that is where you should have stopped, because it will be a symbol to radical muslims of their success over us. And it will encourage further attacks. It will not help relations between Americans and muslims, and as a result more Americans will die.
the symbolism of 9/11 is not what matters. is that people actually died that is the bad part. [quiote]I never said it did. You should try to stay more focused. I said building a mosque at ground zero will do this.[/quote] it is actually not "at" ground zero, but "near" ground zero. like i said, if you went to ground zero you wouldnt even see it. i dont care what radicals think. they cant really be reasoned with. if they get angry or happy over something, that is not my concern. do you disagree with the constitution? why or why not? is the constitution wrong sometimes, like in this case hen defending the freedom of expression and religion is a bad idea? again, we shouldnt let them dictate our policy. we shouldnt give a damn what they think is a victory. our policy is that we allow places of worship to be built most anywhere, and thats a smart policy, we dont change that policy for muslims, so if they think it is some sort of "victory" for them that we are exactly the same as we always have been, then that isnt something i can make myself care about.
Actually we do give a damn. If we didn’t, we would side with the majority of the country and tell them to shove it and not let them build it.
Like the security guards hung from a bridge and burned because of a cartoon? Like any violence that may have occurred in the current war zone as a result of the Abu Ghraib pictures? And you can guarantee that no violence will arise because of the location of this mosque? Riiiiiiight. This is semantics and everyone has heard you go on and on about it. The proximity is there. But stick with a literal argument while ignoring the intent - classic red technique. I would be interested to see you maintain your cavalier attitude with a gun to your head from an angry or happy radical. Best of luck with that. Why do you pretend to be retarded? I specifically said the constitution permits this and made no claim that it should be changed, nor should the muslims be prohibited in any way. Again you lose focus. I said they should not dictate our policy. But allowing it will be a negative symbol against our country and Americans will probably die as a result of it. Yes the mosque should be built according to our law, but it shouldn't because of the negative effect it will have, most specifically future violence. So muslims that really want peace with America should have enough sense to stop it, and Americans realize there is a reason to be concerned. Why are you so anxious for Americans to die?
maybe we should ban cartoons. well i guess we cant because of the stupidass constitution and the stupid ideas in it, but we should anyways, because people die because of them. always let the enemy dictate things to you. if you do a cartoon, and they kill, then stop doing cartoons. if you give them freedom of religion, and they kill, then no more freedom of religion. always let the enemy see you cowering and scared of emboldening them. always alter your policy, to show they are causing you to react to them. like a ****ing coward. "yunno umm lol its ok that they have the mosque yunno, because of the constitution, but um yeah what i dont like the dern muslins feelin good around it. i made no point lolzers you are scared of guns" - you
incorrect. our policy is and always has been that we allow religious freedom. you could almost make the argument that our country was founded on that idea. we have changed nothing by allowing this mosque. to not allow it would be to alter our policy, which would be stunningly cowardly and we might as well call ourselves france.
I am not reacting to them. I am allowing them to build their mosque where they like. You are too retarded to see this, though I have put it in plain text repeatedly. I also acknowledge that while they have a right to do it, negative consequences will occur as a result, much as they have all over the world. Somehow this escapes you.
