The 9/11 Mega Mosque

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  1. martin

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    we shouldnt care what they think.
     
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    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Now you sound like Rex. It is their thinking "it would be a blow to the great satan" that brought the towers down in the first place. Did you think it was done on a whim?

    For the record I believe they have the right to build it there based on our constitution. But it is incredibly short sighted, insensitive, borderline retarded, and will not heal the wound that the attack on the towers caused. If it has any effect on Americans, it will likely be negative.

    And yes it will be a symbol of triumph to the type of muslims that want to destroy us or assimilate us that they are succeeding. Ignoring the clear social implications for Muslims or non-muslim Americans is completely dishonest.
     
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    dont understand your point.

    so do it, i love the constitution and it is really right about things like this. to allow this, it is the right thing to do.

    well, if building this makes americans hate muslims, then so be it, i cant do much about that.

    i didnt say i dont agree that it is a symbol of triumph for some crazy muslims. i said i dont give a damn what those lunatics think. this is america, we dont give a damn, we let people speak and express themselves. we dont worry that are getting one over on us or mocking us or whatever, we just let them say and do whatever.
     
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    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    That is clear. Sad, but clear.
    No you can't, but you could admit to it's enventual outcome, and a negative one at that. One that could be avoided if muslims took their head out of their ass. But the point is that muslims do not have their head up their ass. It is being built here for the purpose that most people fear - to rub our nose in it.

    For example, I can admit that illegal searches and seizures should be thrown out, even if the evidence is overwhelming. But I can also acknowledge that the criminal just got away with one. That our laws worked in favor of someone that wants to hurt us. You act as if this is not the case. It's stupid.

    Really? Felt that way when the towers came down did you? You can not care, but ignoring it as motivation for muslims to attack us is exactly what I said - dishonest.
     
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    i am not sure what you mean. i hate muslims more than anyone. i simply understand that is a bad idea to shut anyone up. muslims are not getting one over on us by building this mosque. if anything, we are proving to them that we continue to be the sort of open society they hate.
     
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    What I mean is that although they have the "right" to build this here, it is distasteful to Americans, will not help muslim relations here, and will encourage radicals to feel as if they are succeeding.

    So despite it being legal, it will have negative effects for us. Declaring that it doesn't, or won't matter is BS. It will matter. And still be legal.
     
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    how do you mean it will encourage radicals that they are succeeding? the success they just had was that they built a mosque in a free country. will that encourage them to build even more mosques and exercise their freedom of religion even more? oh no!

    as far as it being distasteful to americans, i dont see why i care about that either. if americans hate muslims more than they do now, that is fine with me. it dosent anger me or hurt my feelings, but if it hurts yours, good, hate the muslims all you want.
     
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    The rest of your post was just gibberish so I will ask you a direct question.

    Were radical muslims encouraged by knocking down the towers?
     
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    obviously.

    the point you are about to make is going to be total nonsense. but go for it.
     
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    No it isn't, it is exactly the same. Which is why you tried to preempt it with this post. Merely making my point for me. You have grown worse then red in your inability to concede a point. And usually you are either more clever or at least amusing. Here you are neither.

    Building the mosque there will be bad for muslim relations in america and it will encourage radicals to act against us. Just one more trophy on the wall. You are plenty stupid but I don't even remotely believe you are dumb enough to think differently. But keep arguing your asinine, unprovable point. It's been discredited well enough. Who knows, maybe we will get lucky and the next attack will be on your building. After all, you don't care what they think, and we know that what they think has no bearing on their actions. :insane:
     

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