At least out posts are based on some semblance of evidence and fact rather than mindless propaganda.:dis: I could point you in the direction of enough reading to keep you busy for a good while if I thought it would do any good and you would actually read it.
My posts were based on the best evidence by both medical and health professionals, while yours seemed to be based on personal opinion. Ditto on the reading material.
Here's a little snippet to get you started. In 2001, there were 331 alcohol overdose deaths and 0 marijuana overdose deaths. Source: U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC). http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5337a2.htm Excessive alcohol consumption is the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States (1) and is associated with multiple adverse health consequences, including liver cirrhosis, various cancers, unintentional injuries, and violence. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control reported 20,687 “alcohol-induced deaths” (excluding accidents and homicides) in 2003. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/alcohol.htm The CDC has no reports of “marijuana-induced deaths.” (In reality, there may be 2-5 deaths each year attributed to marijuana, but this article -- http://bbsnews.net/bw2005-02-01.html -- describes how these are actually deaths attributable to other causes but “blamed” on marijuana due to the way the data is collected.) Where are your facts again?
Really? You will? Because I don't think that dodging questions is a very strong leg to stand on. I posed legitimate points and questions to you, and all that you could do was take a jab at me, somehow insinuating that I wasn't rational. But you didn't fool anyone into thinking that wasn't a cop-out. It's ok, I doubt this will be the last argument that you lose. Just learn how to deal with it better next time.
First of all I was not calling you irrational. I said the argument was irrational. Even rational people can fail at logic from time to time. My remark was not personal. I am sorry you took it that way. Secondly, I haven't lost the argument. I simply failed to convince any of the posters, as I knew I would when I first participated in the thread. But at the same time, you have failed to convince me of the rightiousness of your convictions. So I would say it was a draw.
This is the gambit that if you can't win a disagreement, switch to another topic. The issue here is marijuana; not alcohol. I never said marijuana was lethal (unless you are driving a car at the time). And I could give you facts, but you would just call it propaganda. I am not going to convince you of the correctness of my position, nor are you going to convince me of yours.
Too simple. First of all, alcohol IS a drug. Drugs can definitely make a person less than fully alert and attentive. Of course there are many times that it isn't important to be "funtional" or "productive". It's why "recreational" drugs got that name. More importantly, there are some creative jobs, where drugs can actually enhance creative ability. As with anything, there is a balance to be achieved. We don't want truck drivers, pilots, and judges to do their work on drugs. But artists and musicians can make a valid case that certain drugs can contribute to thier work.
I don't think that you actually thought that I was being irrational, because I made legitimate points. But instead of addressing them, you sidestepped them completely and somehow tried to insinuate that they weren't worth acknowledgement solely on the basis that I've done drugs. In fact, you implied that my post was a good example of how drugs inhibit rational thought, which is off-base, to put it mildly. I can count on one hand the number of times that I've seen people change their stance on an issue in here because of someone else's argument. It's not about that. But when you start dodging questions and valid points, you're essentially forfeiting it at that point.
Actually, many, many people take drugs to help them function better. How many times have you heard of college students taking atteral (sp?) or dexadrine during finals, or when they have a lot of work to finish in a short period of time? I've done it before, and with an unparalleled focus and determination. In fact, many people are prescribed to such medications to help them focus on their work. I'm not saying that they should be, but they still are. And what about caffeine? Nearly the entire world depends on it to help them function in the morning (lord knows I do). Of course, you don't think of caffeine as a drug, despite the fact that it works the exact same way as the aforementioned substances, albeit to a less severe degree. And there are millions of people that are prescribed to pain killers and muscle relaxers that need those medications to function on a normal level.
