THA JENA 6

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  1. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    i disagree

    how bout conspiracy to commit _______? all ok? even planning the WTC attack?
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    it is a murky distinction for sure.

    if you are planning something, you are actively a part of it. you are conspiring to actually do something. inciting and planning are different.

    if i say "you guys should bomb something" that is not as bad as saying "this is how we will organize the bombing". it depends whether you had any part of the actual crime.
     
  3. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    update. the specific number of black jena residents summonsed but failing to appear is 350.
     
  4. Indiana Tiger

    Indiana Tiger Founding Member

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    Doesn't this strike you as a little odd. If this is common, why are the authorities systematically allowing all these people of color to skirt jury duty? If on the other hand it was a one time occurance, why didn't anyone notice that a significant portion of the population was obviously protesting and stop to investigate?
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What crime? What statute does it violate?

    There is no law against being offended. Al Sharpton offends me, can I have him arrested for a hate crime? Somebody please tell me what law has been broken.
     
  6. meauxjeaux2

    meauxjeaux2 Founding Member

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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The noose incident happened in August. The gang beating happened the following December. It would be tough to make a cause-and-effect relation.
     
  8. Ch0sn0ne

    Ch0sn0ne At the Track

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    Probably not, but I would try to help you make it happen.

    I'm no lawyer, but I would think that had some kid hung a noose in a tree in his yard, it would be stupid, but not a crime. Since this happened on school grounds it violates the students right to a safe environment, however petty it may be. CParso hit the nail on the head when he said hate crimes are against groups of people.

    The school administration is as much at fault he as any of the kids. Schools and employers are obligated under a ton of laws to provide safe environments for everyone. The kids should have been expelled. So maybe the school comitted the crime and not the punk ass kids?

    IDK exactly. All I can say is that if things like that happened to my kids I would take as much legal action as possible and I would easily win.
     
  9. martin

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    a noose is an expression of an idea. an idea you might not like, but merely an idea. it isnt dangerous in and of itself. it does not an unsafe environment make. the thugs that fight over it are the ones making the unsafe environment.

    this one of those times i cant believe i have type this out for it's obviousness.

    when ideas are the things we are afraid of, the things we are banning, then we have truly lost our grip on everything.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Try to understand. For it to be a crime, a law has to be broken. There is no such law. It was a violation of school rules by being disruptive and the students were suspended for it. A prank cannot be considered a threat to student safety, so expulsion is excessive.

    No, you wouldn't. This is America and it is constitutionally protected freedom of expression. However stupid, thoughtless, or offensive, it is not against the law.
     

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