TF Straw Poll-Republican

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Republican Party Nomination

Poll closed Aug 18, 2007.
  1. Mitt Romney

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  2. Mike Huckabee

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  3. Sam Brownback

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Tom Tancredo

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Ron Paul

    9 vote(s)
    23.7%
  6. Fred Thompson

    13 vote(s)
    34.2%
  7. Rudy Guiliani

    8 vote(s)
    21.1%
  8. John McCain

    4 vote(s)
    10.5%
  9. Other (Write-in)

    2 vote(s)
    5.3%
  1. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    Romney and Thompson are unquestionably of "presidential timber".
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Excuse me, I just choked on my coffee. Unquestionably?

    Romney is better equipped than average, but Thompson is a lot of hype and fan recognition. He is not his Hollywood characters.
     
  3. marcmc99

    marcmc99 Founding Member

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    You base this on what? True, he hasn't really been in the political forefront long enough to have recognition as a "politician" by definition. I don't exactly see that as a negative.

    On another subject, what happened to your support of McCain?
     
  4. TigerBait3

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    I'm with Red. It is kind of depressing looking at the candidates.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    He tripped on his pecker. McCain got broad support from the moderate independents and a big slice of the moderate democrats and moderate republicans in 2000. He got it by not being afraid to buck the party line when it was stupid and by his rejection of Rove-type winner-takes-all politics. McCain learned how to compromise and get things done as a senator. He was a conservative candidate who practised moderate, Reagan-style policies. Moderates were his power base.

    But he lost to Rovian politics and George Bush won by rallying the ultraconservative and the neoconservatives together into a right-wing block. Even though Bush failed miserably, McCain apparently felt he had to get Bush's far-right and religious-right supporters to win and he went after them whole hog . . . and forgot that his real base were moderates. Like the dog with the bone, McCain lost his true support trying to get the reflection of that conservative base.

    The conservatives distrust McCain for being a maverick republican and he picked up no support from that quarter. Meanwhile, having gotten on the wrong side of the Iraq fiasco and on the immigration issue, he lost his base of moderates in middle America. McCain is finished.

    McCain is smart, experienced, has a military and a Washington background and he's not an ideologue. My main concern about McCain all along has been his age (71) and his health (one melanoma already). Well, I think he had a senior moment when he decided to support George Bush at the last moment. He doesn't have the stuff anymore.
     
  6. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    Surprise, surprise. Other than Ron Paul, all of these guys (Dems and Repubs) are owned by the same people.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    mccain is a freedom hating poll-watching, busybody. his campaign finance laws are among the worst ever passed in american history. his grandstanding in those hearing about baseball were a national embarassment.

    red likes mccain because he is thought of as moderate. by all meas, let us remember that the perception of moderatation is important. cant be extreme, gotta go with the flow, stick with the status quo.

    red, if you could vote for anyone in america, who would it be? maye we can fina a vanilla mcbeige out there. maybe a suitable man of oresidential timber that would "balance" everything to yout liking. he could have USA today do a national poll to determine what he has for breakfast every morning.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You are getting smarter, despite yourself.

    It wouldn't be you for damn sure. Why are you so worried about what I want in a candidate? Try telling us what you want, instead. Right now, there is no obvious kook, except maybe Paul.

    How stupid is it for you to imagine that being moderate involves polling? Please don't derail this thread with another anti-moderate rant.
     
  9. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    because i am a curious person. you dismiss candidates with principles as extreme kooks. i think your philosophy is held by too many people, to the detriment of america, so i want to understand it really well. i think seeking out moderate candidates leaves us with wishy-washy know-nothings who stand for nothing except getting themselves elected.

    not stupid at all. we need to know the prevalent views so we can be moderate relative to them.

    ok
     
  10. Pringle

    Pringle FUSC and FND

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    Moderates don't get elected, because it is the crazies on the extreme wings that are the people who support candidates during their campaigns and show up on election day, moderates see the good and evil of both parties and just kinda decide they don't care who wins. You have to keep to your core voters on the wings, you can't win an election playing to the moderates in this country or you risk losing the people who turn out for you for people who might not.
     
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