Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling

for me its----better safe than sorry.

take a bus when you can (even if there are black people on it). carpool. heck, how bout not insisting on having a car for every person in the family---you'll save $$$, too.

the people that refuse to believe man is significantly contributing to global warming (or that warming is actually happening)---include millions of people that drive around in a vehicle with a V8 for no reason other than they want it.

 

You have obviously never attempted to pull a fully loaded bassboat out of the Atchafalaya at Butte LaRose using a 6 cylinder. Just the burning graphite from the overworked clutch will surpass any emissions from a V-8's exhaust.

 

i did write "for no reason other than they want it". im fully aware of what your talking about, although a fully loaded bass boat is pretty wimpy. never got into the pansy freshwater fishing.

im mostly talking about the people that drive V8's that never get muddy tire wells. so, not many in the sportsman's paradise. or, maybe there are more than there used to be?----havent lived there in 15 yrs.

 

Sure we are, but we also don't have a natural predator, other than ourselves. And in your own claims, we adversely and unnaturally cause changes on the "natural system" of the planet. Wasn't really claiming much else.

I didn't say that either. Doesn't look like we disagree here.

I didn't say scientific advances, I said "scientific consensus". Science is usually advanced by mavericks that do not accept the "scientific consensus". Eventually the consensus changes but that does not make them the authority, at least not initially. Pretty sure the world was flat once....according to the scientific consensus.

Um...okay.

 

That's just silly. If the consensus changes it's position, that means they were wrong. Point being, your consensus can change it's views, or evolve them(semantics), but if they change, then they were wrong before. Your "scientific consensus" may or may not prove to be wrong in the future. Simply because it is a popular consensus today, does not make it correct. Time will tell.

I'm sure this would be an interesting discussion but probably deserves it's own thread. Sorry if I hijacked here.

 

Well as it is a hijacking, I will make this my last response in this thread. I am sorry, but plenty of the demonstrative scientific breakthroughs are not simple evolutions. The earth was flat. The earth was the center of the universe. The sun was the center of the universe. The men who first put forth that this was false were ridiculed and persecuted by the consensus. That indeed made the consensus wrong, regardless of when or why they "evolved".

Where do I suggest that? Your contention is that we are fools to not accept the "scientific consensus" of the groups you have provided. Others have provided dissenting opinions and you have written them off as BS.

My point is though your consensus seems to be correct, history has proven that the consensus is not always so. You can change it to words such as evolution, direction, etc. if you like.

I didn't suggest this either. However, the scientific consensus you put forth has become politically popular in society. Please don't pretend that the general population understands the concept of global warming as a whole, because they don't. Hell, most of them can't even name the two senators from their own state.

We can try to predict. Considering my weather man(and yours) is correct about 30-50% of the time, I'm withholding judgment.