Sugar Farmers hope for help from Congress

If the government doesn't step in and interfere with business, how exactly is it depriving anybody of anything? Everyone has an opportunity to work and always will, as long as the government stays out of it. So some plant jobs go overseas, big deal. That doesn't stop anybody from working. That's assinine.

And how do you know that there would not be enough jobs in in the service industry? Even factory workers can be janitors if they choose not to better themselves.

When did I talk about wants and needs?

Just for clarity, I'm assuming either you or someone close to you has lost a job because of being ill-qualified for a competitive labor market. If so, just say so, and explain that's why you can't be logical or rational in this area. I would understand.

 

huh? what are you talking about? what do i have to do with anything?

i'm a tightwad? i think nolimitmd is right and somehow your best pal or brother lost his job to foreign labor. you arent rational about it. you are even taking weird shots at me for not living in kansas.

 

for informational purposes, my friends and relatives (including me) are employed more toward the other end of the labor spectrum than the people i am defending. the fact is, i have the ability to recognize that their basic rights are protected and are not superseded by mine wants simply because i am more fortunate than they happen to be.

and also, if you will re-trace this thread, you'll see my issue came about due to the insinuation that this country can survive and flourish based solely on service industries - without agriculture and manufacturing. i have no problem with imports and outsourcing of jobs - to a certain extent, as long as the basic guaranteed rights of americans are not infringed upon.

 

From the linked document, "The federal sugar subsidy program is comprised of government-backed loans, price
supports, and import quotas. The non-recourse loan program allows sugar processors to post sugar as collateral for a loan. Unlike most other commodity programs, sugar loans are made to processors, not producers, due to the highly perishable nature of both sugar cane and sugar
beets."

Technically, student sect is right in that there are no loans to the farmers, rather, the loans go to the processors (mills). This is why the farms have gone into Co-ops with the mills. The small farmer who couldn't or didn't co-op is the one who is taking the beating now. Particularly with the recent restrictions on open burning, and having to go to the billets. The equipment to harvest raw cane in billet form is extremely expensive for the small farmer, as well as the requirement to get it from field to mill before rot (technically, dextran formation) sets in.

Additionally, your linked article indicates $1B going to sugar subsidies while studentsect indicated $19B to the other crop subsidies.

 

Have no problem with outsourcing as long as our basic guaranteed rights aren't infr.......what rights? Life, Liberty and the pursuit of hapiness? Those basic rights? Explain please how having a job fits into that? What if the market crashes....no jobs.......Great Depression #2? How is the government going to give you a job? There is no promise or right of a job in the US Constitution. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.