"Stranded in Suburbia"

could it be that .. Those who can do...those who can't teach.

Red , are you implying by this statistic that it would be better to be liberal than to be conservative,since 40% of those very smart fellows are liberal?

 

I realize now that I mispoke. I said party affiliation map, but I didn't mean that at all. What I meant was a county-by-county depiction of the voting from the 2004 election. I'll find one and post it. It's amazing how geographically massed all the Liberals are (generally speaking).

Having spent a lot of time around Ph.Ds, both in and outside of universities, I would say your stats are grossly in error. And assuming that university professors are "smart fellows" is also a very big assumption.

95% of those moderate PhDs aren't moderate at all compared to moderates outside of the "Ivory Tower". And roughly 50% of the PhDs I know are no smarter than your average college grad. They just stayed in school longer. And they know (most of them) how to research a topic and then write about it.

 

No, I pretty much just hit random keys and hope for the best. (sarcasm)

Apples and oranges - independents can be either Liberal or Conservative. Perhaps you mean what Red is calling "moderates"? At any rate, considering that huge numbers of Americans live in urban environments, and urbanites are decidedly Liberal as a group, then you may be correct. But numbers have NOTHING to do with my point.

Let me echo your :huh:. I have no idea what this means.

Perhaps you are using a different definition of "sarcasim". (more sarcasm)

No. I've read a great deal. And lived a bit. And my OPINION (which doesn't generally require a survey or a memo (still more sarcasm)) is that the Liberal worldview only thrives in areas where large numbers of folks rely on the government to provide them with jobs and services, and the majority of the rest of the folks live lives of relative comfort and almost unbreakable financial security.

 

Here's the map I was referring to. Yes, it's a generalization since it only shows who carried the county, not by how much (could be 51%, could be 90%). But you have to admit it's interesting how consistent the generalization is between urban and non-urban environments. And I'd say the contrast between Bush and Kerry is a pretty clear Conservative vs. Liberal contrast. So, I think it's at least interesting, if not instructive.



Compared to population density via this cool picture:



Interesting to note (and counter to my "thesis" :grin that Houston and Dallas don't follow my generalization. Guess we could chalk it up to home field advantage. Or, we could chalk it up to Texas being so Conservative, even it's cities buck the trends. I believe Austin still popped Blue - go figure :lol:. Or is that San Antonio. I think it might be San Antonio...

 

Your map still makes my point.

And YOU said Liberals weren't hard working. I was talking about folks who work hard physically - and your point about union workers doesn't fly, because the large majority of them are Conservative democrats, not Liberals.

 

Red , i actually don't listen to Limbaugh,although i used to think he was some what entertaining,he just isn't on the radio on any station in my car.I drive alot and he definately isn't on xm radio.This may surprise you, but I listen to Air America ,where i have heard some of the most insane bs ever to go out on the airwaves.I will give you just one example of this later in this post.

The lack of conservatives as professors is probably a result more of the mindset of conservatives according to this study anyway

Conservatives Just Aren't Into Academe, Study Finds

Conservatives Just Aren't Into Academe, Study Finds - Chronicle.com

Personally, I am more of a libertarian.The less government the better.The fewer taxes the better.Republicans are supposed to be the party of fiscal conservatism and so I most often align with them.Liberals on the other hand most often want more taxation,more government programs.Bush was a moderate republican .his tax cuts actually almost worked .90% of the budget shortfall in 2001 came from an increase in spending over the baseline . Even with the tax cut we are still being taxed at 18.4 % of gdp, which are at virtually historic highs.His tax cut in 2001 was to spur the economy and offset a recession starting in clinton's last few month's of office.The problem's with Bush came not from Tax cuts ,but an increase in spending ,a violation of conservative fiscal policy.


Here is Air America at it's finest.

The host Malloy claims that he can walk into any white neighborhood supermarket and find dates on the milk 2 or 3 weeks from expiration date.However, if he walks into a store in a black neighborhood, he will find milk out of date or close dated. He makes the case that this is because milk companies are dumping their close dated milk on the black population.

He obviously has people listening to him and i would assume people buy into this bs,since he is still on the air. This is not even close to being true.

Probably 90 % of all milk sold in any store is store brand milk ,which that store is responsible for ordering at store level.Sounds like the store in the black neighborhood he visits has a store level ordering and rotation problem.The other 10% of milk brought into that store would be from vendors,like Kleinpeter and Borden in Baton Rouge.The sales people could lose their jobs if they leave outdated milk on the shelf,so they are certainly going to be watching this closely.

The technique he is refering to,is called "rolling stales"and works exactly the opposite of how he described it.

Here is how it would work...I will pick a bread vendor since it is most commonly used by them,and it is rare.The vendor for "Jimmy Joes" breads and cookies has 30 accounts .He has 4 high volume accounts at Walmarts,where he could sell bagged dog feces if he wanted.he also has 4 accounts in stores that do very little volume ,in areas that dont sell his specialty bread.He has to put it on the shelf in these stores,but it just sits.So when it gets close to going out of date,he picks it up as a stale from the low volume store.He then takes it across town and sells it as new to the Walmart where he knows it will be gone in a day. This is dangerous for the bread vendor,because if Walmart catches him,he is done at that store,done at his company ,and will be looking for a new line of work.The risk ,reward to do this just isn't worth it.The argument that the poor people get stuck with the old product is ridiculous since in reality IF IT DID HAPPEN ,it would be the opposite of what this guy claims.