i consider telling someone else's jokes stealing in the same sense as stealing music. if you steal my jokes and tell them i am pissed (not really, but i would be if i had the attitude the music industry has). but i dont have the government on my side, like the music industry does. you people do not sem to understand that ones and zeros are ones and zeros, no matter what form they take. information is information. joke, idea, song, movie, it is all the same. either i can "own" information, or i cant. of course i am "rationalizing". the reason i do not steal video games is that i think it hurts the industry. i dont think stealing music hurts the industry, i think it helps it. and i certainly dont feel bad about helping the world by stealing music. there is no magical reason why stealing is wrong. it is wrong because stealing screws up society, it kills the motivation for production. if it doesnt screw up society, you should steal. morals are based on reason. 5 years from now it will dawn on you that everything i am saying is true.