stealing music, and the future of copyright

Originally Posted by Bengal B
Are you saying that you have never copied a music CD and burned a free copy for a friend?

I'm calling BULLSH!T on that one. You are well known on this forum as an avid and knowledgeble fan of music and I'm sure you must have a large collection of music that is hard to find in todays market.

Lets say that you have a hot babe over that either you have been dating or that you are trying to get into her pants for the first time. You play the appropriate music to get her into the mood. She turns to you and says "Ooh Red, I love that music, Will you burn me a CD?" You tell her, " I could but that would be stealing the dollar or two that the multimmillionaire artist would be getting in royalties if you spent your own $15 on the album. Sorry honey, but you will just have to go out and buy it for yourself."


End result: No sex for Red.

Even you can't be that sanctimonious in real life. Your attitude reminds me of M*A*S*H's Frank Burns.

I am not advocating making copies to sell for profit but I have a lot of music on CD, digital, and tape. I will gladly make a copy of any of it for any friend who asks me.. I'm sure that you have music that I would like and don't have and I probably have music that you would like and don't have.

Wanna trade?

 

Ding...Ding...Ding...We have a winner! Most excellent post on the state of music creation as its defined today.

We had a lengthy discussion on this "mashup" (another term, like turntablist, that I never knew existed before today) style music in the round table several weeks ago and what defined musician vs DJ. Unfortunately all the high powered music programs out today give people the ability to instantly create music without being a musician. People that dont have a basic understanding of music theory, and at least an intermediate understanding of music modes, will be stifled in creating memorable work because they dont have the musical knowledge to put it all together. I'll call this "Kayne West Syndrome" from now on. Chances are he cant tell the different between aeolian and ionian if his life depended on it and more than likely others of his ilk cant either so the shoe fits. The collective dumbing down of musicianship as its happening in America today.

As far as this Girl Talk guy goes, I cant comment on his work since I havent heard a single thing he's done. However, if he is profiting from the use of other peoples work he is far more of a thief than anyone sharing an MP3. Fair use my azz.

 

I got it free from his website!

 

50 cent believes that piracy is fine and it is effective marketing:

50 Cent: Piracy Is A Part Of The Marketing | Techdirt

it is alo worth noting that 50 cent made over 100 million by signing to endorse vitimin water for stock instead of cash. they sold out to coke and his stock went ballistic. the same is true about david wright to a lesser extent.

 

those poor artists need to come to terms with the fact that music trading or "stealing" is a permanent thing. technology doesnt care about them, it just keeps making stealing easier. so they should learn to make it work for them, like the genius businessman curtis "50 cent" jackson.

 

its not his fault you have DSL.

 

of course i am a theif. so are millions. we dont feel that bad about it. so going forward, producers of content should plan accordingly.

free tv didnt kill the movie industry. free radio didnt kill the recording industry. video tapes didnt kill movies either. there will always be ways to make revenue on things that folks want to consume. mr cent understands this.

lets say the worst case scenario occurs. there just isnt much of a way to profit making music. so be it. there currently isnt much of a way to make money being a dancer or opera singer, but there are still tons of talented folks working like madmen to make it, doing those things like crazy. there is no lack of production of ballerinas or opera singers. the opposite is true, there is a glut of them, all trying to make it, even though the financial rewards for all but a very few are minimal.

what i am saying is that i cannot imagine a scenario where the world just does have any new music being produced and we are all bored and sad because of the loss of music in our lives. i cant imagine a negative consequence.

certain professions do not require large financial rewards. the laker girls famously get paid almost nothing. and yet an army of stunners shows up every time to audition. we, the hot-girl enthusiasts are never left without a product to enjoy, because the supply is endless. same with musicians. they like to express themselves and will always play music.