stealing music, and the future of copyright

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No it isn't. Under section 117 of the copyright law, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if:

    1. the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only;
    2. you are the legal owner of the copy

    But they are a part of the creative process, especially producers. What you propose will never happen.

    Fine. You are a thief. And a shameless one.
     
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  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    sorry red, but i wont lose any sleep at night knowing that i deprived Lars Ulrich 3 dollars.
     
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  3. DRC

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    I have downloaded a bunch of music over the years but its resulted in more sales from me. If I like the stuff I go out and buy the CD because I want the uncompressed quality compared to the lossy quality of an MP3. If I dont like it I dont listen and trash the file but I would never have bought it to begin with. I realize I'm the exception and maybe I justify my downloads because of it. I dont think there are a bunch of starving popular musicians out there. They make damn good money for their work and in some cases become popular from having their songs distributed through downloads.

    The artist gets approx 10% for their work. The other 90% goes to record companies, producers, distributors, promoters, retailers, etc. Too many profit margins built in. With the electronic capability we have today, music production and distribution may evolve away from the old recording industry practices with more direct to consumer path. I think this is what the RIAA is afraid of. A boutique studio can pretty much produce anything the big production studios can do and the RIAA knows it. Distribution is their only stranglehold right now and they are hanging on by a thread.
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    And if an artist decides to give away free music as promotional material, that is fine. But stealing material that is not offered for free is stealing.

    It's the way the free market works. There are many people who get a peice of the action when they sell a car, too. Why don't you just steal a car instead of buying it legally?

    This evolution is happening already and is normal, but there still has to be a way for artists to make money or they will have to find other work. It is that simple. Quality and quantity of music, book, films, and other literature, art and design work will decline if people are allowed to steal creative property.

    I hold several copyrights and I resent anyone stealing from me, for damn sure.
     
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  5. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    ive posted links before not saying its illegal but that riaa says it is. and there is really no difference.
     
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  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    bad analogy, i cant download a car off of my computer. and if i buy a car i sure as hell can let my friend use it without some stupid record company or millionaire used to be artist crying about it.
     
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  7. DRC

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    Im not going to steal it but I'm going to test drive one before I buy it. :)
     
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    Canada has an interesting take on this subject. They aren't the only country that allows sharing either.

     
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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Sure there is. Copyright is a federal law. The RIAA is an industry association. They have a special interest in copyright but their positions are not law.
     
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    What does your computer have to do with it? If you illegally download a copyrighted album it is just the same as if you shoplifted a CD out of the store. If you receive illegally copyrighted material, you are acting as a fence for stolen property. Justifying it to yourself does not change this.

    It's the law. I know you don't like it, but you don't like the dope laws either. What laws do you approve of, i wonder?
     
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