stealing music, and the future of copyright

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by martin, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Not the issue.

    Already answered, a recorded performance is no different from a live performance in terms of compensating the artist.

    Preposterous. Scarcity has no relation to the legality and morality of theft of copyrighted property.

    You do have a point, but it's right on the top of your head.

    Translation: My arguments are unconvincing.

    We must agree to disagree. I'm shocked that a thing like this could happen. Shocked, I tell you.
     
  2. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    So does this thread die now? Somehow, I don't think so.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    nobody is stopping you from throwing in your 2 cents.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Old arguments never die, they just evolve and reappear on some other thread.
     
  5. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Leave it up to me:thumb:
    Here is an interesting article a while back about copying DVD's.
    Some would suggest that copying dvds is no different than using a vcr or recording music off the radio or the satellite.
    The only difference is that it is new technology versus old technology.
    Let me be the first to say that the old technology sucked because I still remember waiting and listening to the radio for hours before I could record East Bound and Down!:yelwink2:

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,119549-page,1/article.html
     
  6. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I have never respected anyone as I respect you right now. This is the most awesome thing ever posted on this forum. You deserve a medal.:thumb:
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i often rent a dvd, then i forget to watch it, so i copy it to my laptop and return it, then watch it later and delete it. i am pretty sure this is illegal, although i definitely do not feel bad about it. perhaps i am a sociopath.
     
  8. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    I pretty much do the same my friend.
    With a 2 year old and a six year old in the house we would never watch a movie or rent otherwise.
    Matter of fact we are lucky to watch 30 minutes straight in our house at a time, special needs children.

    I'm not sure I get it?:redface: :confused:

    Its funny the way movies and songs affect our lives especially when we are young.
    Smokey and the Bandit and Star Wars are my favorite movies as a kid and somewhat continues today.
    I still like no other car better than a 1977 Bandit Edition black Trans Am.
    I also still would like to own one someday.
    I was 12 years old when these movies came out and I wanted to be like Burt Reynolds and ride cover for a trucker if not be a trucker at the time.
    BTW, Waiting to record that song was how I heard about Elvis death, talking about breaking news.
    They say you never forget where you were and what you were doing at the time and they be right!:grin:
     
  9. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    When I was driving from Atlanta to Baton Rouge for football games I would listen to West Bound and Down non-stop for the entire trip. I would speed excessively the whole way. My goal was always to beat my best time. My best time ever was from Duluth to 100 Oaks in 6 hours and 9 minutes.

    Eastbound and Down is equally awesome to West Bound and Down. Actually it is more awesome because at east bound they already have the beer.
     
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  10. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    martin's point = if you do not physically take something from the creator, then it is not stealing. Copyright is determined by the ability to control information. Free duplication to all information is good for the creators & hurts no one.

    Red's point = whether the creator has one less copy or not is irrelevent. Someone now has an exact duplicate (the key to this thing) of the creator's work, without paying for it. Copyright is determined by the extent of duplication as opposed to knowledge transfer. Whether free duplication is good for the creator or not is irrelevent, it is their choice of whether they wish it to be distributed freely or not.

    I think martin has a very interesting idea, and maybe something that could work in a different time & culture. Perhaps he's right in that he's ahead of his time... But in today's world, from a legal & moral standpoint, Red is correct.
     

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