Spin-off thread: Your Favorite Conspiracy Theories

Great movie with Val Kilmer.

 

This one was really blown up by sensationalists in the UFO community. Uncle Jesse died before I was born, but my mom and grandparents always said that he was adamant that he never saw alien bodies or even heard anything of recovered bodies. That is something that is routinely glossed over. Jesse Jr always maintained that the materials he saw were a material he had never seen, but again he was 10, and it was 1948. Jesse Jr. made a good bit of money going to the UFO conventions, but in the conversations I had with him, he never indicated he thought the materials were alien. Unfortunately a lot of stuff has been attributed to him and to my great uncle by the UFO kooks.

Jesse also suffered from dementia by the time the UFO people started interviewing him, and he embellished his service record and claimed to have done things he had not done and seen things he had not seen which furthered the mythos.

 

The $200,000 came after the film. He didn't have the money to construct a suit so complex at the time of the film.

Many others disagree with that assessment.

So an unknown animal is like known animals? Female gigantopiticus are thought to have a sagital crest.

Imagine that. People who go out looking for something in an area where that thing is reported to be find it. Bluff Creek had reports of Bigfoot like Creatures long before Ray Wallace, dating back to the First Nations peoples. The reason Wallace chose Bluff Creek to pull his hoax is because of all the activity that had been reported in the area.

Morris has changed his story multiple times. It is strange that neither he or anyone else could produce a store bought suit that looks anything like the creature in the film. He has no records to support selling a suit to Patterson, and noone is able to corroborate his story of talking about a hoax at trade shows.

Heironimus changed his story multiple times. The first telling was the suit was horsehair glued to his skin. Then it became an ape suit after Phillip Morris made his claims.

I think anyone in the SFX world is trumped by the opinion of John Chambers. He was the lead guy in the industry at the time, and he said he couldn't make a suit to match the detail of the creature in the film.

Krantz and Meldrum can't be dismissed. They are the only ones who have done scholarly work on the film, and reached similar conclusions based on evaluation of the data. Their are many who debunk the film, but the two true scientists who analyzed it scientifically both concluded it is a living unknown creature.

 

i agree with red on everything in this thread. I cant believe supa believes in bigfoot. everyone has an HD camera in their pocket. we should have pictures of sasqy and that chick in florida hes been banging at the minimum.

 

Does a falling tree in the woods make a sound if nobody is around to hear it?

But if scientists and academics had any reason to believe that Sasquatch really existed wouldn't somebody have organized an expedition to find one in the areas of reported sightings. With all the tools we have at our disposal today it shouldn't be that hard to find one if they exist.

 

This didn't come out right when I posted it yesterday. But I do believe that the CIA was involved in drug smuggling as of the following and even after. Baton Rouge pilot turned smuggler turned informant turned dead man Barry Seal was a pilot at one time for Air America.


Drug smuggling
See also: Allegations of CIA drug trafficking
During the CIA's secret war in Laos, the CIA used the Meo (Hmong) population to fight Pathet Lao rebels. Because of the war against Pathet Lao rebels, the Meo depended upon poppy cultivation for hard currency. The Meo were very important to CIA operations and the CIA was very concerned with their well-being. The Plain of Jars had been captured by Pathet Lao rebels in 1964 which resulted in the Laotian Air Force not being able to land their C-47 transport aircraft on the Plain of Jars for opium transport. The Laotian Air Force had almost no light planes that could land on the dirt runways near the mountaintop poppy fields. Having no way to transport their opium, the Meo were faced with economic ruin. Air America was the only airline available in northern Laos. "According to several sources, Air America began flying opium from mountain villages north and east of the Plain of Jars to Gen Vang Pao's headquarters at Long Tieng."[7]

Air America were alleged to have profited from transporting opium and heroin on behalf of Hmong leader Vang Pao,[8][9][10]or of "turning a blind eye" to the Laotian military doing it.[11][12] This allegation has been supported by former Laos CIA paramilitary Anthony Poshepny (aka Tony Poe), former Air America pilots, and other people involved in the war. It is portrayed in the movie Air America. However, University of Georgia historian William M. Leary, writing on behalf of Air America, claims that this was done without the airline employees' direct knowledge and that the airline did not trade in drugs.[1] Curtis Peebles denies the allegation, citing Leary's study as evidence.[/QUOTE]

 

Was one of the things listed by LaSalle when he started this thread