1. apparently I've never had a real job.
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  2. people get testy about things that they invest so much in, but wonder, deep down, if theyre getting duped.
  3. this is the kernel of the issue. they want prayer in school to increase the chances that their kids grow up to be good god-fearing people. they are not comfortable leaving that to the merits of religion or the predilections of their children
  4. I'm well aware of that.

    not taking anything personally.

    just curious as to when did we (the country as a whole) get away from from a democratic republic (of the people, for the people, by the people) where the people got to decide things by a majority rule type thing.

    if at a school, 85% (just using that number from the website) of the students/parents of students want a moment of silence, they should be allowed to have one.

    it's no different than the President.
    I personally did not vote for Obama. But since the majority DID vote for him, he's the President. I (as well as anyone else that didn't vote for him) have to accept that outcome.
  5. Well, that's fine for selecting cheerleaders or what the school colors should be, but not where laws are concerned. It would be chaos if each state, school district, school or classroom could vote on whether or not to discriminate. The democratic process goes on with our election of representatives and judges . . . but their decisions must be honored by all in a lawful country.

    Else we would be like Pakistan, where the law calls for a secular government, but some breakaway regions have declared Islamic law for themselves. It's a civil war in the making.
  6. Actually, the majority Americans didn't vote for him...only the majority of of Americans who decided to vote, voted for him.

    Turnout was a little over 60%....they say it was the second or third best turnout in over 100 years. The largest turnout was in 2000 I believe. Almost 40% or registered voters did not cast a vote. Due to this, there is no way that anyone can say that the majority of Americans support obama. I believe, given the choices we had, a lot of people just said "Screw it", and didn't bother. A lot of people didn't show up at the polls and obama benefited from a record turnout of "young" voters. Given a better choice than McCain (historically, one of the most hated republicans by conservatives), the outcome could have been very different.

    I have never supported McCain, except for this last election, and that support was not for McCain but against obama. Many, many people felt the same as me. I believe McCain's service to his country was honorable, but I do not support him as a politician. I had to hold my nose while casting my vote against oboma because both choices stunk.
  7. Yep. All of the libs felt that way too after W beat Gore. :hihi:
  8. Someone else made this very argument on here recently, and nope, it hasn't gotten any less ridiculous since then.
    Then you could make the exact same argument about ANY president. It's a stupid thing to say.
    A lot fewer people said 'screw it' than usually do.

    In fact, Obama was largely the reason that a lot fewer people said screw it. He gained the interest of many of the typically apathetic voters...or 'non-voters,' should I say.
    Don't kid yourself. The results of this election were a referendum on the wreckless republican shenanigans of the past 8 years. Plus, the repubs had no one that could generate anywhere near the enthusiasm that Obama did. Your argument might be a little more valid if the election was even close...but it wasn't.
    It wasn't that many.
  9. Your "opinions" sound just as stupid to me Chaos as you say mine do to you. It is true, however, that no president since Reagan has really had extremely broad support. Neither Bush, carter, or clinton...and certainly not obama.
  10. You forgot to add a 'certainly not' before Bush. He was far less popular than Obama, as much as it would pain you to admit it.