SOPA and PIPA

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    yes i know. and you are acting like the use of the word "thief" means you win the argument. sort of like if i use the word "criminal" when discussing your pot smoking. we are beyond that. its not about what is legal. yes, i am stealing, according to the law, and you are a criminal as well. so what, move along. laws dont define what is right.
     
  2. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    There are plenty of people who break the law every day.
    Are Illegels thieves or criminals for breaking the law and then benefiting from out system? How about that falsify information for welfare?
    Workers who double dip?
    How about speeders or red light runners or do they become if they create an accident?
    I could go on.
     
  3. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    Victory for the people. record crazy numbers spoke out. so score one for democracy for the time being.


    PIPA being voted on Monday I believe.
     
  4. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Just about everyone in this country has violated copy right laws.
    If you have owned a cassette radio recorder, VCR, DVR, rented a movie from Blockbuster, Netflix or satellite. All of these have cost the record and movie industry money. Whats worse is if you have went to your local library and checked out movies, music or books for free or a small fee. You have all cost the authors of books, movie stars, musicians, Hollywood, Record companies millions.
    Your local library stores the materials just like megaupload did as far as I can tell.
     
  5. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    exactly right.

    the music and movie industries would make it illegal for us to loan each other books and stuff if they could. and then red would call us criminals for doing it and act like the argument was won, not really caring at all about the actual ethical questions at hand with regard to actual utility for society. forget that we enjoy trading files with each other, the government declared that certain outdated revenue models are to be preserved, everyone else be damned.
     
  6. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Just saw a post that said if you kill Michael Jackson you get 4 years, if you upload his music you get 5 years!:insane::rofl:
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    It's about time the people won over big money. This has to be a first in a very very long time.
     
  8. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    but they havent "won" the war, just this battle. it will be brought back, you can bank on that. only voting out the author and the supporters of the bill will others not touch it. they may lose that source of money, but without their jobs they lose all the other sources also.
     
  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    this day and age, any win against big money is a win.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No it is about what is right and moral, a virtue you do not possess. In societies with no laws or police, thieves are still abhorrent to the people and subject to punishment and vengeance.

    The crimes of thieves have victims. The crimes of pot smokers do not.
     

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