what? of course it does! your asking me this indicates that you still, after all these years, do not understand what i mean when i ask you why stealing is wrong. it as if you have zero comprehension of logical reasons society has rules. try to think about society as a whole, why some laws are beneficial and some are not. there are things that we consider right and wrong as a society where we are mistaken. its not immoral to do drugs. its not immoral to gamble, it doesnt help us to make these things illegal or make people who do these things "criminals". try to understand what the negative effect on society would be if information could be freely transmitted and copied. think of the whole way society would change. do you actually believe we would be sitting around with no books to read, no music to listen to? are you even aware that this si the actual question we should be asking? its like you are 4 years old and say "um dangit the law says this" copyright laws protect a very specific way of making profit, for a specific group of people. people who, like anyone else, can profit doing one thing or another thing. they are not blind miners in a moning town in siberia that has one mine, that if it closed they all starve. if a change has a net benefit for a society, it is good, even if some special interests dont like it. if i invent a cure for cancer, and you stole it from me, it would be unjust, but a net gain for everyone. and maybe i would not be motivated to cure malaria next, so you might think about that before you took it from me. these are the sort of questions you should be asking. when you understand that, we can move along. as of now you seem very stuck in very stupid logic.
It does not. Marketing promotes copyrighted products. Creative work utilized by marketeers is mostly protected by corporate or individual trademark. My friend, it is you that does not seem to understand what "wrong" is. Thus your questions. Jeez, a child can understand this. Another philosophical monologue. Sure pal, whatever you say. Do you ever ask yourself, "why can't I understand the concept of "wrong"? Information can and is. The vast majority of information available is in the public domain. Have at it. Just be sure to pay for information that is proprietary. It's a concept that has been recognized for millenia. The illegal thievery of intellectual property is not good for a society. It rewards freeloaders and fails to reward creators. It is essentially f**ked up and backwards. Yes, you have the very immature "it's mine" mentality of a 4-year old. But daddy has rules, Scooter. What the hell do you think this suggests? You are just rambling. Sorry, theft has long been illegal for a reason that you cannot comprehend, apparently. The special interest you represent is the parasitic freeloader who contributes nothing to society. I asked those questions to myself many decades ago, answered them to my satisfaction, determined what was right and moved on. You clearly still have issues with most questions of morality.
you are not addressing my points, you are speaking to me, not my points. try again. why is stealing wrong? because it deprives folks of profit? lots of technology deprives folks of profit. because it reduces the supply of the stolen thing? it doesnt, it doubles it.
Your new points are a distraction from the debate you were losing about intellectual property rights. Do you at long last concede that stealing intellectual property is the same as stealing physical property? I find it impossible to believe that you do not understand why stealing is wrong. It is a basic human concept understood by small children. You should call MiB, your alien cover is slipping. Stealing is not only wrong, it is a crime in all civilized societies. In pre-civilization, theft warranted capital punishment on the spot. Stealing creates a victim making it immoral. A victim who is deprived of his property and suffers loss. This makes it a personal misdeed. It is also a misdeed to society, when lawlessness becomes rampant. Stealing is a misdeed to a free economy when freeloading thieves are rewarded while the creators of property suffer. Gobbledegook. Even you don't understand what you just said! Give it up. You cannot justify theft.
of course not that is my whole point. exactly. doesnt apply with intellectual property. thats why it is different. i can take your intellectual property and you can still have it. that doesnt work with a potato. at this point i feel like you agree with me but pretend you dont.
Of course it does. The law is specific. The moral is clear. You are quite wrong. Sure it does! I have a potato, and from it I grow a field of thousands of potatoes. You think you have the right to steal 999 of my potatoes and share them with all your freeloading friends. But I should be happy because I still have a potato. I should grow another 1000 next year. Sure pal . . . :insane: I don't agree with you. The law doesn't agree with you. Western civilization does't agree with you. Nobody does.
i have never been talking about laws then explain it i would copy your potatoes. you would still have every one of your potatoes. such a simple concept. i am smarter than most folks
There are no laws in lala land. I just did. Victims. And such a ridiculous and preposterous idea. Digital potato replication technology doesn't exist. You must invent scenarios and entire technologies to justify your position in the most twisted of ways. Yet not as smart as you think you are. You often forget that there are other folks out there who are pretty smart, too.
there are lots of laws. i am not discussing whether laws exist, but whether the laws are effectice at making society work. again, i dont just scream over and over that you are a criminal because you smoke weed, and therefore you are a bad person. you are right and the laws are wrong. and i dont dismiss you for being better than the laws you live under. yeah, but see the odd thing about intellectual property is that it can be replicated. which is my your potatoes make my point. things that can be replicated for free are not the same. i am smarter than IP laws the same exact way you are smarter than anti-marijuana laws. you are dumb about IP law the way my parents are dumb about drug laws. they are just old and cant see things clearly, stuck in the old ways of thinking.
You have made your points. They are unacceptable to society. I have made mine. What is left to discuss? Legally, they are. Your thesis is that things that are easier to steal should be legal to steal. Nonsense. You are simply ignorant about intellectual property rights, copyright law, and astonishingly . . . the difference between right and wrong.
