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Tiger in NC said: ↑

right now you can't prove a single shred of any wrongdoing
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certainly can prove illegal drug use, and almost surely can prove protitution. unlessyou think the videos of hunter smoking crack with whores is Russian disinfo. it isn't, and hunter doesnt deny its his laptop.

hunter is suing for having his pricacy breached. how can he do that if the laptop is Russian disinfo?

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"Thousands of emails purportedly from the laptop computer of Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son, are authentic communications that can be verified through cryptographic signatures from Google and other technology companies, say two security experts who examined the data at the request of The Washington Post"

authentic communications, not Russian disinfo.

"two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post. Neither found clear evidence of tampering"

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Thousands of emails purportedly from the laptop computer of Hunter Biden, President

"files carried cryptographic signatures that could be verified using technology that would be difficult for even the most sophisticated hackers to fake.

2 experts used email headers to determine veracity

Such signatures are a way for the company that handles the email — in the case of most of these, Google — to provide proof that the message came from a verified account and has not been altered in some way. Alterations made to an email after it has been sent cause the cryptographic signatures to become unverifiable.

The verified emails cover a time period from 2009 to 2019, when Hunter Biden was acting as a consultant to companies from China and Ukraine, and exploring opportunities in several other countries. His father was vice president from 2009 to 2017.

Many of the nearly 22,000 verified emails were routine messages, such as political newsletters, fundraising appeals, hotel receipts, news alerts, product ads, real estate listings and notifications related to his daughters’ schools or sports teams. There was also a large number of bank notifications, with about 1,200 emails from Wells Fargo alone.

Other emails contained exchanges with Hunter Biden’s business partners, personal assistants or members of his family. Some of these emails appear to offer insights into deals he developed and money he was paid for business activities that opponents of his father’s bid for the presidency sought to make a campaign issue in 2020.

In particular, there are verified emails illuminating a deal Hunter Biden developed with a fast-growing Chinese energy conglomerate, CEFC China Energy,

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everything that was supposed to be on the laptop was not. it was all russian disinfo.
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the laptop is not Russian disinfo and no one has any evidence whatsoever that it is. in fact the opposite is true it has proven to be legit via cryptography and also because hunter openly admits its real.

you should stop lying about this. its really incredibl how you will keep repeating this lie year after year even after is 100% proven to be his laptop, notRussian disinfo, and even hunter admits it is his!

now, if Rudy Giuliani comes along and says there is evidence of space aliens on there, and there isn't, that has nothing to do with Russia!

THE LAPTOP IS NOT RUSSIAN DISINFO AND THERE WAS NEVER ANY EVIDENCE IT WAS EVEN BY THOSE THAT MADE THE ORIGINAL CLAIM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-laptop-methodology/

2 experts used email headers to determine veracity

no evidence Biden laptop is Russian disinfo, according to over 100 national security leaders

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aaaf77-579f9b330000

"We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal aSorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement

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He still won't get it

shane0911, Oct 30, 2023

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Tiger in NC said: ↑

right now you can't prove a single shred of any wrongdoing.
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huh? Who takes a plea deal if not for a single shred of wrongdoing?

Oh, is this you?

Maybe Hunter took a plea deal to get the big guy....

Oh wait, this is you AGAIN:

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You cant say these Trump people are guilty for taking plea deals but then say Hunter is innocent for taking said plea deal.

UNLESS, you agree the law is applied in a bias way often...

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seems like the lines between russian disinformation and evidence were blurred a bit by the guvment….

https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/2...urged-sources-who-were-onto-biden-corruption/

FBI Purged Sources Who Were Onto Biden Corruption
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The FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force used a sham assessment opened by FBI headquarters to cull reporting from confidential human sources (CHS) throughout the country related to the Biden family and then falsely brand the intelligence as “foreign disinformation,” Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, revealedWednesday.

Wednesday’s explosive news suggests the DOJ and FBI’s Biden-family protection program encompassed many more players than previously known. But it is the involvement of the Foreign Influence Task Force that demands an immediate response by the House, namely the launching of an impeachment inquiry of FBI Director Christopher Wray, under whose watch this task force abused its power — and interfered in a presidential election.

Late Wednesday afternoon, Grassley released a seven-page letter that, while addressed to Wray and Attorney General Merrick Garland, spoke to the American public, telling them of evidence of “significant political bias infecting the decision-making of not only the Attorney General and FBI Director, but also line agents and prosecutors.”

Grassley’s letter summarized the evidence he has gathered over the last two years, with the assistance of Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and multiple whistleblowers. There are several significant strands to pull from the Iowa senator’s latest missive, but none more important than the details he revealed about the assessment opened by FBI headquarters’ Supervisory Intelligence Analyst Brian Auten.

In July of last year, Grassley went public with a whistleblower’s “allegations that the FBI developed information in 2020 about Hunter Biden’s criminal financial and related activity but ultimately shut it down based on false assertions that it was subject to foreign disinformation.” According to Grassley’s source, “the basis for shutting the investigative activity down was an August 2020 assessment created by FBI Supervisory Intelligence Analyst Brian Auten,” which an FBI HQ team used “to improperly discredit negative Hunter Biden information as disinformation and caused investigative activity to cease.”

In his Wednesday letter to Garland and Wray, Grassley expanded on the whistleblower’s claims, writing: “In August 2020, and possibly earlier, Supervisory Intelligence Analyst Brian Auten opened the aforementioned assessment, which was used by the Foreign Influence Task Force to seek out CHS holdings at FBI Field Offices across the country relating to the Biden family and falsely discredit them as foreign disinformation.”

The timing of Auten’s opening of this assessment is hugely significant because it followed a month — or maybe less — after the FBI’s June 30, 2020, interview of the “highly credible” CHS who reported that the owner of Ukrainian energy company Burisma had claimed he paid Hunter and Joe Biden each $5 million in bribes. The June 30, 2020 interview, which was memorialized in the infamous FD-1023 Grassley released earlier this year, only came about because the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of Pennsylvania had asked the FBI to search its records for documents potentially relevant to the vesting of information related to Ukraine.

At that time, the U.S. attorney for the Pittsburgh-based office, Scott Brady, was serving as a clearing house for evidence related to Ukraine and claims of corruption by the Biden family. According to Grassley’s letter, during Brady’s assessment, FBI officials located an earlier FD-1023 from March 1, 2017, that related to an investigation into Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of Burisma. That FD-1023 included a reference to Hunter Biden being on Burisma’s board of directors, which prompted Brady to request the FBI re-interview the CHS to probe for any relevant information connected to the Bidens. The FBI reportedly fought that request for a month before conducting the June 30, 2020, interview of the CHS.

It cannot be a coincidence that a month later Auten launched an assessment that the Foreign Influence Task Force then used “to seek out CHS holdings at FBI Field Offices across the country relating to the Biden family and falsely discredit them as foreign disinformation.” After all, if one U.S. attorney’s office undertaking a serious assessment of claimed corruption by the Biden family would think to task the FBI with searching its database for potentially relevant CHS reporting, other offices or other investigators might do so as well. And who knows then what derogatory information might be uncovered — which is precisely what FBI headquarters sought in searching the field offices, namely “derogatory information about Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.”

It is unclear how many confidential human sources, or how many of their reports, were categorized as disinformation by the Foreign Influence Task Force, but the whistleblower told Grassley that the FBI’s improper branding of the information as “disinformation” “caused investigative activity to cease.”

We also know from Grassley’s letter that Brady vetted the FD-1023, corroborated some details of the CHS’s reporting, and coordinated with the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York to assess whether it might be Russian disinformation: The U.S. attorneys “found no hits to known sources of Russian disinformation.”

Nonetheless, 11 days after Brady officially closed the assessment, having concluded his vetting of the FD-1023 and other relevant evidence, and before the Pittsburgh-based U.S. attorney’s office could even brief Delaware on the FD-1023 and the need for a further investigation, the Foreign Influence Task Force on Sept. 14, 2020, communicated with the CHS’s handling agent. According to the whistleblower, “the Foreign Influence Task Force attempted to shut down” the CHS’s “reporting by falsely saying it was subject to foreign disinformation.”

“It should be emphasized that the basis for trying to shut down the Biden family 1023 has been described to my office as highly suspect and is contradicted by other documents my office has been told exist within the Foreign Influence Task Force, FBI Seattle Field Office, FBI Baltimore Field Office, and FBI HQ holdings,” Grassley stressed.

While it does not appear the Foreign Influence Task Force succeeded in shutting down the CHS behind the FD-1023, the task force’s inability to scuttle the FD-1023 proved irrelevant. That’s because, according to IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley, Delaware Assistant U.S. Attorney Lesley Wolf, who was overseeing the Hunter Biden investigation, had already written off any evidence coming out of Pittsburgh as disinformation.

The Foreign Influence Task Force succeeded in scuttling other confidential human sources, however, including one opened by the Washington field office. That CHS’s reporting connected to the Hunter Biden investigation, thus the D.C. field office provided the CHS’s reporting to the Delaware field office.

Timothy Thibault, the former FBI assistant special agent in charge of the Washington field office, revealed that fact during this transcribed interview before the House Judiciary Committee some two weeks ago. In his testimony, which The Federalist has reviewed, Thibault explained how he received a call out of the blue from FBI headquarters’ Public Corruption Unit chief to discuss the CHS. According to Thibault’s testimony, FBI headquarters arranged for Thibault to meet with the Foreign Influence Task Force to learn of its concerns about the CHS, whom Thibault later closed.

It’s unknown how many other confidential human sources were closed or whose reporting FBI headquarters or the Foreign Influence Task Force falsely branded as misinformation. But Grassley stressed in his Wednesday letter that “at one point in time the FBI maintained over 40 Confidential Human Sources that provided criminal information relating to Joe Biden, James Biden, and Hunter Biden.”

Did the FBI investigate the evidence provided by those sources, Grassley asked? Or were those sources improperly shut down?

To learn the answers to those questions and others, Grassley notes he has a list of some 25 DOJ and FBI personnel to be interviewed. Let’s hope the House is listening.

But the House needs to do more than question the personnel Grassley identified in his letter. The House must first open a long-overdue impeachment inquiry into FBI Director Wray because the latest revelation of the Foreign Influence Task Force’s interference in the investigation into the Bidens establishes the director cannot control his swamp creatures.
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Yeah, let me know when the charges will be filed please? Because not only have there been no charges filed or grand juries enpaneled in this case, not one single shred of what you are calling evidence ever shakes out to be what you guys say it will. I don't know how many times you've had the "smoking gun witness" either not show up or show up and say that Joe Biden had nothing to do with it. So let me know....

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there is no evidence for that.

again, I am quoting the national security officials:

"we do not have evidence of Russian involvement"

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

is your claim that there is evidence of Russian involment and that these national security folks are wrong?

the laptop was validated to be real, the emails on itmathematically proven to be real and not Russian disinfo.

I repeat my question, do you believe the following statement by the national security officials is false?

"we do not have evidence of Russian involvement"
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I've told you my position on the subject, I'll not repeat it for you. I haven't budged an inch.

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I've told you my position on the subject, I'll not repeat it for you. I haven't budged an inch.
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And you are still wrong in that very same spot!

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