Six Arrested in Alleged Fort Dix Murder Plot

of all the things to be concerned about, this is the one you are critical of? of course the muslims are coming to kill us. i say we kill them first. sabanfan couldnt be more right.

the threat of terrorism isnt some some republican invention, it is real, and we are past the point of being reactive. we are being proactive, as we should be.

 

I actually couldn't resist my response whether truth or not it was hilarious!:lol:
Sorry, I forgot the laughing face!:grin:

It is in fact to many on the left only about politics, they say there is no such thing as a war on terror see John Edwards for instance.
There are some of the left that believe the war on terror isn't real.
I've always said it would take 2 more 9'11's to wake up everyone.

 

True. Ollie North testified before congress during the Iran Contra hearings in the late 80's, under the Reagan admin that Bin Laden was the most dangerous man in the world. So, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II all contributed to 9/11.

Many in the middle, and it is incorrect for the right to assume that anyone who does not agree precisely with them therefore is on the left, agree there is clearly a war on terror, and we feel we are going about fighting it the wrong way. Terror groups by nature are not "governmental entities", they operate in "cells" in houses and they make their bombs in the kitchen. You don't fight that war like you did Desert Storm. You don't have to invade and hold Iraq when less than 1% of the people may have been involved in an activity that may have eventually brought harm on the US. If we were concerned with Saddam building a nuke, put and keep inspectors in there. We are going about this the wrong way for a war on a few terrorists.

Now who does this overreaction benefit? Well in the US, the profits will be up for years at all the defense contractors. They will benefit for sure. Eisenhower warned of the "growing influence of the Military Industrial Complex" late in his admin, in the late 1950's. I think we are looking at it.

The large military the US maintained into the 80's was designed for fighting world wars, against Russia in particular, the only other super power. When they fell, the assessment was there was low likelihood of another world war. Commerce has been so intermingled that it is not to anyone's advantage. The cost is too high to bear.

But the defense contractors want to grow their businesses. For that, they need a world war threat, or there will be no support. Enter the Project for a New American Century, the blueprint for massive American militarism (I posted a link to PNAC earlier). After 9/11, we have a small band of terrorists that are sold to us as a 'global threat'. We invade Iraq, which had no collaborative link to Al Qaeda, and no WMD. All stated reasons were false, what was the real reason?

Was Saddam bad? Sure. But there were other alternatives to taking over his country. In 1991, we told the Shia to rise up and we'd arm them. They started to rise up against Saddam, but Bush I withheld support, causing many to get killed after they exposed themselves as opposed to Saddam. I think Bush I did not want to create the power vacuum we see today, but he shafted the Shia at the time. But we could have armed the Shia and the Kurds and let them at Saddam anytime, much like we won in Afghanistan by supporting the local war lords against the Taliban. We seem to think the only option in Iraq was to invade or do nothing, which insults the intelligence of thinking people. There are always many options, we just picked the most expensive one.

Who is benefiting today. Defense contractors and big oil, profits are at record highs. Follow the money, that's what I've always been told, and it has been shown to be true far more often than not.

 

i didnt mean all muslims. i mean the ones who kill americans, like the ones in iraq.

 

Whatever, Nancy. I'm sure that genius, Al Gore, would have been a much better choice.:dis:

 

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly.
I didn't assume, that makes an ass out of you and me!:lol:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275028,00.html

For the Libs
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2324977720070524?feedType=RSS

OBL declared war on us and killed 3000 people, how many more people have to die before people wake up and realize there is a war
going on between radical Islam and America including the world, they want to convert you or kill you!
Anybody who says stuff like Edwards can't be serious about what we face.
It is not a funny matter, nothing worth joking about!