So you're saying Clinton didn't idenitify the enemy or he identified the enemy and chose not to take them out? Either way, Clinton didn't disrupt al-qaeda. We saw the results of that. Next thing you'll tell me is that they didn't start planning 9/11 attack on Clinton's watch.
I can't believe your wasting your time with this same old argument. Its been all tried before, the Clinton apologists will NEVER admit Clinton did anything wrong and there are many revising history under the Clinton Administration. Its all a big waste of time since both sides have let us down when it comes to defense and security. Idiots argue that our military is stretched to thin going to war, well it aint Bush's fault that Clinton and his dad downsized the military. They downsized the military so bad that we no longer have the forces to fight a real war and to anyone who says technology, a bit of advice here, When Red Russia, China or anyone else with a bomb comes along to shut down our electrical grid every citizen in this country better be prepared for an old fashioned war!:shock: Theres are real question to answer these lousy candidates running for president!
I didn't say that at all, you are just putting words in my mouth because your argument is faltering. I listed half a dozen Clinton successs at taking out the perpetrators of crimes against Americans. Identified and killed or jailed. Clinton forced Bin Ladin to go underground because he got missiles tossed at him whenever he raised his head. before that, he operated openly and was able to travel and to access and spend his fortune. Not so afterwards. And did you forget that the Millenium Bombings, an 9/11-scale planned Al Qaida terror act, was not only disrupted but successfully foiled on Clinton's watch and the perpetrators jailed. I forgot to put that one on my list, thanks for the reminder. Five convicted and imprisoned by the US and seven condemned to execution in Jordan. Despite having received a memo on 8/6/01 titled "Bin Ladin determined to strike in US", Bush allowed 9/11 to happen without placing authorities on alert that foreign muslim men in the US may be conducting a hijacking or bombing. You're ducking the issues I've made about Bush's failures to eliminate Al Qaida since Afghanistan in 2003. This is what you said Clinton should have done. Al Qaida is bigger than ever on Bush's watch and merrily killing US troops in Iraq, when US troops should be merrily killing Al Qaida in Pakistan.
Cite one instance where I've revised history. Be prepared to back it up with evidence. Congress downsized the post-Cold War military. A democratic congress from 1991-1993, a republican congress from 1994-2007.
That one word sums up our differences, as well as the differences betweeen the two parties. You call it a crime, I call it a war. This is not a bank robbery or murder. It's a group trying to destroy America.
It's a group of international criminals trying to embarass America. No nation has declared war upon us. One nation let itself be used as a base against us and we took Afghanistan down. As bad as 9/11 shocked and angered us, it didn't come close to endangering America, much less destroying it. They couldn't possibly destroy the US, that is simply terrorist rhetoric intended to terrorize us. Don't buy into their propaganda. "The War on Terror" is also rhetorical and intended to convey the seriousness of the fight. But this is not a conventional war, as you must have noticed. The islamist criminals also use rhetoric and declare "Jihad" against the US. But what it really amounts to are crimes against civilians. Terrorism is a crime, it isn't a war. We defeat terrorism by capturing or killing the terrorist criminal themselves. There is no nation to war against and hold accountable except Pakistan, where bin Ladin hides and who will not give him up or let us go get him. We may have to go to war with Pakistan someday, but meanwhile there are international terrorist criminals that need to be killed or caught. war –noun 1. a conflict carried on by force of arms, as between nations or between parties within a nation. 2. a state or period of armed hostility or active military operations. 3. a contest carried on by force of arms, as in a series of battles or campaigns. crime –noun 1. an action or an instance of negligence that is deemed injurious to the public welfare or morals or to the interests of the state and that is legally prohibited. 2. criminal activity and those engaged in it. 3. the habitual or frequent commission of crimes. 4. any offense, serious wrongdoing, or sin.
I said there are many revising history, I didn't say Red. Sandy Burglar stealing national documents help confirm my suspicions So the president had nothing to do with it? It was still both parties that have done this correct or am I wrong? I hate the hair splitting that people do in this forum because they don't agree with me. BTW Red, about your responses about Clinton and his responses on terror. Well, he must've used 2 year old or faulty intelligence to bomb that empty training camp or he was just trying to make it look like he did something! I also find it hilarious that OBL declared war on us in 1996??? We, mainly democrats and their supporters still don't believe it? Like John Edwards said, there is no war on terror other than a bumper sticker for Bush's political gains correct? Thats the same thing I think about Global Warming actually. I do think we are at war with terrorists I'm not in denial! Enough of this garbage I'm outta here!
Geez you should really study the issues before you make snap judgements. The camps were occupied, not only but Al Qaida, but by Bin Ladin himself just hours before the strike. At the last possible minute, the US informed our "ally" Pakistan that there would shortly be cruise missiles overflying their terrritory on the way to Afghan targets. This was necessary to maintain diplomatic relations, keep Pakistan from assuming that it was being attacked, and to keep them from trying to shoot down the missiles. Someone high in the Pakistan government informed the Taliban, who warned bin Ladin and enabled his escape just before the attack.
And you have proof to back this up? Since this particular fairy tale supports your side, you'll offer it up, I guess. You might as well go ahead and call yourself a Democrat. Terrorism threat? Pshaw. We have nothing to fear. We just have to make them like us. It's attitudes like yours that have people in mosques all over the US gleefully planning their next homicidal mission.