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Should people on public assistance be able to vote?

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cajun_tiger Founding Member

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IMO they should vote.

The ones that abuse it shouldn't but that would be difficult to police.

With that said if your on public assistance your ass better be able to pass a drug test!

Also! I'm sick of standing in line at Wal-Mart watching people use food stamps and then once i walk outside i see them jumping in a 70K escalade with 24 inch rims and 10K sound sytem.....you get the picture!

cajun_tiger, Oct 15, 2009

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Rex_B said: ↑

I was listening to Walton and Johnson this morning and they brought up a decent point.

Those voting for public assistance are the ones ON public assistance. I mean WTF of course I would vote for free money if I was getting it.

What's your thought?
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I looooove listening to them every morning on my way to school.

cajun_tiger, Oct 15, 2009

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can i trade my vote for public assistance?

gumborue, Oct 15, 2009

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OkieTiger_KATT said: ↑

hell, i want the tax credit for my dogs. does that mean if i get tax money for my dogs, they can no longer vote?
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If they're in Orleans parish, they can always vote. :wave:

Hell, their votes are counted even if they don't vote or are dead. Morial, Landrieu or Nagin only.

DJM136, Oct 15, 2009

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DJM136 said: ↑

If they're in Orleans parish, they can always vote. :wave:
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damn. we just put the new orleans house up for sale. no little "i voted" stickers for the dog now. :hihi:

OkieTigerTK, Oct 15, 2009

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cajun_tiger said: ↑

With that said if your on public assistance your ass better be able to pass a drug test!
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Waste of money. 90% of the people on public assistance are small children and the elderly. Definitely low-danger demographics.

cajun_tiger said: ↑

Also! I'm sick of standing in line at Wal-Mart watching people use food stamps and then once i walk outside i see them jumping in a 70K escalade with 24 inch rims and 10K sound sytem.....you get the picture!
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Urban myth. Food stamps are debit cards now anyway, you got no idea at all if someone is using food stamps.

red55, Oct 15, 2009

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red55 said: ↑

Walton and Johnson haven't had a cohesive thought in over a decade. They sold out to the Limbaugh demographic and only shill conservative anger talking points.

I have a old friend who has worked hard for 20 years but has been laid of for almost two years now, except for part-time work she picks up when she can. She's exhausted her unemployment and had to apply for food stamps. She may have to apply for public housing soon, if she can't meet her rent from odd jobs.

Falling on hard times is NO REASON AT ALL to try to deprive someone of a right of citizenship so basic as voting.

Walton and Johnson are particularly absurd in suggesting that they shouldn't vote because they are beneficiaries of government taxes. Well, we all are in some fashion or another. We all vote for candidates that promote the things we favor. Duuuuh! This is exactly like saying that the rich should not be able to vote because they are the recipeints of tax credits and tax cuts that they vote on.

But the Walton & Johnson audience is a bunch of 1-watt bulbs who believe anything they hear without regard to reality.
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Whether you like them or not is besides the point.

And yes people vote for a candidate that promotes the things they favor. I've never seen the rich vote to not pay taxes? In fact I see the rich tired of paying their money out and taxes going up with the govt. giving out more benefits. At what point does someone say hold up we are playing to the cycle of lazyness (not all people).

What ever happened to personal responsibility.

The govt. is not your Daddy.

Rex_B, Oct 15, 2009

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red55 said: ↑

90% of the people on public assistance are small children and the elderly. Definitely low-danger demographics.
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Nobody really defined public assistance in this thread yet so your 90% could mean a whole lot of nothing to me.

Rex_B, Oct 15, 2009

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OkieTiger_KATT said: ↑

and just where is the line drawn?

what if you have a single mother that has been laid off from her job through no fault of her own. (say business closing.) she is busting her ass looking for another job, doing menial jobs to try to keep the bills paid, but has to apply for food stamps to keep her children fed until she can get back on her feet. and her children are eligible for medicaid since she also lost her insurance.

do you say "you cant vote" to someone who may be temporarily down on their luck but trying their best to get off of public assistance? and how many paper pushers is it gonna take to determine that first of all she has lost her right to vote, and then to reinstate it once she gets on her feet and has a job that allows her to get off of public assistance and care for her family?

or what about the family (mom, dad, two kids) that are in a similar situation? they barely get by, but have jobs to pay the bills and put groceries on the table. however, neither mom or dad's job offer insurance and since the income is so low and they have no insurance, the kids are eligible for medicaid under the state program. because the family receives public assistance in the form of basic health care for the kids, do you tell them they cant vote? what if one of the parents is also taking night courses to hopefully be able to better their lives?

what is the line? what is the criteria of "public assistance". seems like a slippery slope to me. not to mention the huge gobs of cash it would take to run a program determining who could and couldnt vote, get people off the voting rolls, getting them back on, etc etc.
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Where would the line be drawn indeed. I just thought this place needed a bit of a pick me up since I haven't seen a decent thread in weeks..

Rex_B, Oct 15, 2009

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Rex_B said: ↑

Where would the line be drawn indeed. I just thought this place needed a bit of a pick me up since I haven't seen a decent thread in weeks..
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no $h__. maybe you should start one of those.

gumborue, Oct 15, 2009

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