Sen. Spector changes party to Democrat

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  1. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    It goes both ways. And it was Spector himself that proposed legislation prohibiting an elected official from switching parties while serving as it betrays, the people that elected him.

    If he was so moderate, he would have run as an independent like Lieberman did. But he can't get re-elected that way, so he has to jump to the left. What happens to his republican staff? Do they have to switch parties too? Or just ignore their principles so they can have a job?

    It's silly and just because politicians do it all the time does not make it right. And coming from this guy, who claimed a desire for checks and balances, it is even more disgusting.

    The polls don't show an increase in republican voters. They show and increased dissatisfaction among the republican voters. Claiming he will have the same voters when he acknowledges he is switching because he lost them is just....well.....I think we can see what that claim is about.
     
  2. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    The people who voted for him before did not vote for democrat Spector. Big defference.

    Is he serving the Republicans who elected him NOW by switching parties? Don't think so. Red, you are a smart guy and love to twist words. However, any idiot can see that this is a betrayal to the people who elected him for this term. You're not an idiot, are you? :wink:

    If he does get reelected as a Dem, then yes, at that time, he will be serving the ppl who elected him for that term. And yes, that just further proves that he is saying/doing whatever it takes to get elected and is not being true to any moral compass or the people who elected him to represent them for the current term.
     
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  3. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    The dude said he is switching because he couldn't make it out of the Republican primaries. This has nothing to do with political ideals and everything to do with self preservation.

    We need term limits.
     
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  4. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Amen to that. Only problem is that those in power will never vote themselves out of office.
     
  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I still see the guy as a moderate, that fact that he changed parties doesnt change his voting record, which has been "moderate". If we really want to get into, the main reason why he changed because the right scouffed and demonized the guy for voting for the stimulus package, even though he has voted with the right on a number of other issues. They RNC gave him the suspicion that they werent going to back him in the primiary or general election. So as we all have said here 10 times, they guy is trying to save his hide for another term. Which is wrong. I bet 100 bucks that the far left will get behind a candidate to run against him in the democratic primary.
     
  6. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Then why didn't he list himself as an independent and avoid both primaries? Could it be because he can't beat a democratic candidate either, so this is his way to marginalize that vote? That's impressive. Let's put that guy back in office.

    I have looked at his voting record and I would refer to some of it as moderate, but certainly not all of it. I think the GOP put up with him as long as they could.

    In the end this puts the ball squarely in Obama's court. The dems won't be able to whine about the obstructionist repubs and Obama will probably not be able to claim bi-partisanship. It will be more noticeable when dems balk and vote the other way.

    Except in the press. :rofl:
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Trust me this puts no pressure on Obama. Specter and the Blue Dogs will be his out when a piece of legislation doesnt get the votes. Also, he is the master of the media. lol.
     
  8. luvdimtigers

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    Like Rodney Alexander?
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No difference. :huh: The exact same constituency has voted for Spector six times and will do so again soon.

    Enough not to fall for a smokescreen like that. Of course he is not serving Republicans. He's serving the voters of Pennsylvania, an increasingly liberal state. Betrayal of the republican party, sure. Betrayal of his consituency, no! He's making changes to accomodate his constituency. Only a moron would confuse a senator's party with his constituency and use terms like "betrayal" about a politician. You're not a moron, surely? :grin:

    Indeed, his constituency, the voters of Pennsylvania, should be outraged at themselves! The very idea that a politician might evolve with his district's demographic rather than march in lock-step with his party line. I'm shocked. Shocked to hear that there is politics going on here!
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Smart, eh? :thumb:

    Spector's alternative was to lose to a moderate democrat like a half dozen republican senators did the last time around. He had the moderate credentials to become the moderate democrat and continue to serve the constituency that has elected him many times before, so voila!

    The Republicans have lost the moderates in this country and Spector can see that even if the Republicans don't.

    But honestly, this works out better for the GOP than a liberal Democrat in the seat. Spector has been a republican for 45 years and he is going to vote with the minority on a lot of issues.
     

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