Sen. Ben Nelson Caves

gumborue · Dec 21, 2009

LSUMASTERMIND said: ↑

They should really scrap this bill and start from scratch, this is a waste of time.
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SabanFan said: ↑

I still don't know what all is in this bill.

Obama is interested only in being able to say the he got healthcare reform when no other President could. He doesn't give a damn what the final version looks like, nor does he care that he sacrificed the political future of many Democrats. He cares only that he can trumpet his success. It's all about his massive ego. Pathetic, really. :dis::dis:
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it will look a lot different when signed. thats why nelson said he reserves the right to not vote for it later (is that the same as "i was for it before i was against it"?).

why is every one so upset with nelson? this is how it has been working forever. makes me think many dont often follow the legislative process.

SabanFan · Dec 21, 2009

gumborue said: ↑

why is every one so upset with nelson? this is how it has been working forever. makes me think many dont often follow the legislative process.
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It's the way he whored himself out. He never had any intention of being the Dem who sabotaged Barack's baby.

Sourdoughman · Dec 21, 2009

LSUMASTERMIND said: ↑

They should really scrap this bill and start from scratch, this is a waste of time.
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We agree on this however my understanding is that it doesn't matter what is in the bill, they can always modify it later on.
Its a pretty good chance that some voted for this bill didn't know what is in it.

SabanFan said: ↑

I still don't know what all is in this bill.
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Neither do some who voted for it!

PURPLE TIGER · Dec 21, 2009

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WINNERS

* Cosmetic surgeons, who fended off a 5 percent tax on their procedures.
* Nebraska, Louisiana, Vermont and Massachusetts. These states are getting more federal help paying for a proposed Medicaid expansion than other states are. In the case of Nebraska — represented by Sen. Ben Nelson, who's providing the critical 60th vote for the legislation to pass — the federal government is picking up 100 percent of the tab for the expansion, in perpetuity.
* Beneficiaries of Medicare Advantage plans — the private managed-care plans within Medicare — in Florida. Hundreds of thousands of them will have their benefits grandfathered in thanks to a provision tailored by Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., that also affects a much smaller number of seniors in a few other states.
* Longshoremen. They were added to the list of workers in high-risk professions who are shielded from the full impact of a proposed new tax on high-value insurance plans.
* Community health centers. They got $10 billion more in the revised bill, thanks to advocacy by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.
* A handful of physician-owned hospitals being built around the country — including one in Bellevue, Neb. — which would be permitted to get referrals from the doctors who own them, avoiding a new ban in the Senate bill that will apply to hospitals built in the future. Without mentioning Nebraska or other states by name, the Senate bill pushes back some legal deadlines by several months, in effect making a few hospitals that are near completion eligible to continue receiving referrals from the doctors who own them. Chalk up another win for Nelson.
* AARP, the lobby for elderly people. The new Democratic bill has about $1 billion in extra Medicaid payments to states that provide visiting nurses and other in-home or community services to prevent low-income people from needing to be admitted to hospitals. In House-Senate bargaining, AARP also is expected to win one of their top priorities: a full closing of the so-called "doughnut hole," the gap in Medicare's coverage of prescription drugs.

Non-productive, government dependent, "back pocket of the Democrats" voters.

LOSERS

* Tanning salons, which are getting hit with a 10 percent tax on indoor tanning services, replacing the cosmetic surgery tax.
* Progressives. They had to give up on their long-held dream of a new government-run insurance plan so that Democratic leaders could lock down the necessary votes from moderates.
* People making over $200,000 a year. A proposed 0.5 percent increase in the Medicare payroll tax was bumped up to 0.9 percent in the latest version, putting the tax at 2.35 percent on income over $200,000 a year for individuals, $250,000 for couples.
* Generic drug makers. They fought unsuccessfully to block 12 years of protection that makers of brand-name biotech drugs — expensive pharmaceuticals made from living cells — will get against generic would-be competitors.

Hard-working, tax-paying, productive citizens.
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The worst Congress in American history strikes again!

LaSalleAve · Dec 21, 2009

A politician caving in because of money???? WTF???? what is the world coming too???? Surely this doesn't happen all the time.

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Sen. Ben Nelson Caves

gumborue Throwin Ched

SabanFan The voice of reason

Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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