Sighhhh, why bother. The UN supported forcibly removing Sadaam until it came time to fish or cut bait. Bush did what had to be done. Our true allies supported us. What you don't understand is that Bush is not politically motivated. He did the right thing. Saddam is under lock and key and the deaths of millions of innocents will be avenged. And from my point of view, if the only reason we went over there and ripped Saddam's murderous ass right out of his palace was to avenge the assasination attempt on Bush, Sr., that's good enough reason for me. And if Halliburton makes a few bucks off the deal. So be it. I can cite a lot more less palatable things that have been done with my taxes.
we realize the UN didnt support the war. in fact most of our earlier discussion was you telling us that and us reminding you that we knew that already. we went over it at least 3 times. and you didnt answer me. i outlined how saddam had not held to the agreements he made that ended the 1991 war, and you just mumbled some more irrelevancies about how the UN didnt support the war. you say "The UN did NOT support the war. End of story." that would be the end of the story if we lived in a country called the UN. we have sovereignty. that means we rule ourselves. we dont have to listen to the UN if we dont want. i would have thought you understood that.
Bush is like a little kid playing war with GI Joes and versus the little green army men. His first 4 years will be known as the US aggresion years, and that is how he wants it. He is already picking his next target in his attempt at Middle East domination...will it be Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran??? Time will only tell. When little w does something good here on the homefront, I will give him some due props. Until then he is no different than Napoleon, the Roman Empire, or Hitler in his quest for world domination. And don't bring that Hitler/Jews thing into my comment. Hitler wanted to control the world and that is why he invaded all thise countries. If he would have acknowledged history and not invaded Russia in the winter, like Napoleon, he could have been a bigger threat then what he is given credit for. All of these men are evil in their own regards, and failed to address what the real problems on their own soil were....Bush is starting to very much head down that road I feel if we continue to knock out Middle East countries for amusement. The world is an evil place guys...lets take care of our own first before we tackle the problems of others.
exactly. that is the difference between bush and clinton. i call it leadership. war sucks, we are aware of that. but we understand that sometimes going to war is better than not. we dont just think "war is bad" and end our thinking there and refuse to fight even when we need to. bush knows that you cant make empty promises and resolutions, or your words become meaningless. the UN doesnt understand that. to be honest, the UN general assembly is mostly countries who are totally useless, with worthless governments who should never make decisions for the US.
by the way...I have very little interest in politics, and get a kick out of the little arguements that go on in this forum. we all have our opinions, and it is nice of Brett to let us be so boisterous in expressing them. Yes, I voted for Gore. Yes, Hitler was very evil and deserves to die 100000 deaths. i am also a history fiend, and I am quite enjoying seeing the similarities between Bush and the others I mentioned in the previous post. Only we, as Americans, are going to view our over seas adventures differently than the rest of the world now since we are, technically, the aggresors. I am very proud and thankful for our troops, and glad Saddam is in custody. Now, lets come home and party like its 1999
As a history fiend, you should realize that Hitler DID NOT invade Russia in the winter. Operation Barbarossa commenced on the morning of June 22, 1941. Had everything gone according to plan (and with the success that the Blitzkrieg had shown to be in Poland and western Europe, Hitler had no reason to think it wouldn't), Germany should have conquered Russia in a matter of months...long before the Russian winter set in. The "Scorched Earth" policy of resistance is what did the Germans in...unable to survive off the land because the retreating Russians destroyed everything, they outran their supply lines. Add to this the fact that the Russians offered much stiffer resistance than the French (BIG surprise) or Poles had, and Barbarossa stretched into the winter months...a contingency the German High Command had not planned on.
So now you are arguing that Bush invaded Iraq as a SOVEREIGN NATION? One minute you are telling me that Bush went to war under UN resolutions, now you are telling me that Bush went to war with America acting as a sovereign nation? I guess it does not occur to you that you are talking out of both ends martin and you are making no sense? Then if Bush went to war as a sovereign leader, then end once and for all all references to the UN as an authority to go to war. At least decide which it is. If you cannot even keep straight what YOU THINK, how am I supposed to know? Your argument is something like this: Bush went to war under the authority of UN resolutions, but the organization, the UN, OPPOSED the war. That is Hitleresque and Stalinesque reasoning. You little right wing toadies will make up any excuse to defend Bush. There were no WMD found, and Saddam's armed forces were in a shambles. The sanctions had rendered him powerless and he was no threat to anyone. So you have to come up with something. Any lie will do for you to defend Bush.
Tell you what. You need to do a little traveling. Start out with a nice trip to Hawaii. Then France, then New York City. Spend a few quiet moments standing on the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor looking down at the rusted tomb of thousands of American sailors. While in france. gaze over the acres and acres of white crosses symbolizing the valiant deaths of thousand of Americans in WWII. Wrap up your trip by standing at the site of the World Trade Center and think about the 2600 plus innocent people who died there. I've done all three my friend, and, quite frankly, take serious offense to your misguided post.
One of the all time classic lines. I must remember this one folks. It will go down in posterity along with, "I am not a crook," and "Dear, on my word of honor, I don't know how those women's panties got in the glove compartment." ROFLMAO
