Russian issues

Did Trump and his associates or the Russians for that matter fill out the ballots that got him elected? OK let me help you, the answer is no.

So therefore there is no "rigging" of an election...well other than that part where that bitch flat out admitted to screwing the bern but hey, let's not allow silly facts to get in the way.

 

The biggest issue here, which of course goes unexamined, is why was the electorate fertile ground for such a dis-information campaign. Kind of like the old Eagles lyric, "but she can't take you any way,
You don't already know how to go."

 

The classic "I don't really have an answer to that reply...."

What was I wrong about? I was clear that I am not a fan of HRC and she was not my choice to be the Democratic nominee. That said, like her or not, I knew that she wasn't going to jail. I knew that she hadn't done anything criminal. I stated very early on that this would cost her politically but not legally and I was right. Why do you keep bringing up the Clinton investigation?

Yes and I have addressed this and to my answer you replied, "More fallacies...."

No we do not.

You need to go back and take a closer look, son. In fact I started a thread during the election about Russian interference so please spare me the revisionist history. Anyone who says they do not recall Russia being an issue during the election wasn't paying attention......at all.

Chronic....

Ask the Trump administration, they are the ones who created this story. While your at it, ask them why they don't just produce the intel that proves their point? Trump has the authority to do that.

 

No she hasn't. Go back and listen to her interview on PBS. The entire interview. Her story hasn't changed at all.

 

maybe, I don't know. it doesn't matter.

 

You guys just can't get over Benghazi even though we now know it was a fake scandal. Further, Susan Rice didn't do anything wrong. Susan Rice was never the subject of that investigation nor was she ever accused of wrong doing. You act like her using rehearsed talking points about an event that was less than 24 hours old and misunderstood was actually her lying and intentionally misleading the American public. Don't you think that if there was ANY evidence of wrong doing on her part that the beloved Benghazi Committee would have been all over it?

you made this up.

It appears Turkey would too.....and Russia.

Flynn himself said that if someone asks for immunity it usually means they have committed a crime, right? Just using his words.

Sounds like he was trying to do just that. Given all of his suspicious foreign ties, he may have wanted to introduce all kinds of new culture to the DIA.

 

So let me get this straight.......ALL of the leaks that have come out that spell out collusion between his campaign and the Russians are all fake news and cannot be trusted, right? But the leaks that seem to favor Trump are the gospel truth, right? Got it. Nice. Figures......

 

You know, I agree that Castro and the other congressman shouldn't have made that assertion. It's no different than people chanting "lock her up" at campaign rallies.

No disagreement here. That being said, the credibility of Trump is shit. He has made an accusation against Mrs. Rice and he alone has the power to show evidence of this "crime" he says she committed. Like other past accusations he has not and when asked to do so he obfuscates by saying "At the right time......" We've all heard that before.

I went back and watched the Morning Joe segments about Rice and Unmasking. All they said is that IF the story is true then, yes, it would be a big deal, but they offer no proof. So the truth is that you heard what you want to hear and deduced that there must be something to it.

Could've fooled me; it's been all over every news channel. I think what you mean is that the media isn't crucifying her based upon the word of DJT. Trump has the power to show his evidence to the public or at least to the members of the committees who are investigating but he hasn't done so. My question to you is this: How many times does Trump have to bold face lie to you before you stop believing him when he makes these wild assertions and then offers no evidence to support it.

Let's not forget that this started with Trump asserting that Obama "wire-tapped" him. Everybody and their brother debunked this assertion, including Mitch McConnell and several other prominent Republicans. Since then Trump has flailed, trying to make his statement true and in the interim insisting that the Russian investigation is a hoax, that they should be investigating the Clinton's instead of him, then Rep. Devin Nunes called his infamous press conference to claim that he had proof to support Trump's assertion, only to find out two days later that his "source" were two WH staff. Now the blame has moved to Susan Rice and I'm willing to bet if, or when, she is found to have done nothing wrong, Trump will move on to the next scapegoat. This is his MO, Winston.

 

30 years worth of partisan media compounded by a 24 hour news cycle that repeats things over and over whether true or not. This can be said of both sides. I've said for a long time that if we ever have a real scandal again, one like Watergate, we may never get to the bottom of it because the parties and their media will take up sides and protect their own. We are seeing this happen right before our very eyes. The silver lining is the FBI investigation, whom I fully expect to conduct a non-partisan investigation into the matter.