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  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    How's that deal with Oran working out? Have they stopped hating us yet? No! Maybe we should send them another planeload of cash. They must need it to develop their own nuclear weapons. Or to buy some from the Russian mafia.
     
  2. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Dude I criticized the deal with Iran before during and after. Try reading it again. I said Obama’s sucked up to Putin to make his deal with Iran. It was weak and hurt us.....just like Trump is doing now. I don’t know precisely why Trump is sucking Putin’s cock but he’s developed quite a vacuum.
     
  3. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Let's start with low-hanging fruit.

    "He fired FBI Director James Comey over the Russia probe."

    That is false.

    "Trump hasn't mobilized his administration to counter Russian cyberattacks. The National Security Agency director says Trump hasn't asked him to."

    A) So because Rogers says so, does that mean he is privy to everything? False conclusion. B) Rogers said in testimony, "There are tools available to us, and again, I think in fairness, you can't say nothing's been done," Rogers said. "But my point would be it hasn't been enough."

    I think it's safe to say that the original statement from your link is inaccurate.


    "President Putin has clearly come to the conclusion that there's little price to pay," Adm. Michael Rogers told Congress."

    So Rogers can tell us what Putin is thinking? Well damn....what's he got going on today? False conclusion.

    "Whether Mueller ultimately alleges such a crime remains unknown. He now has help from Trump's former national security advisor, deputy campaign chief and campaign foreign policy advisor — all of whom have admitted felonies."

    And yet, "Mueller filed the criminal information one day after he unveiled a new superseding indictment charging Gates and Manafort with a slew of financial-related crimes stemming from their work for pro-Russian political forces in Ukraine over the last decade. The alleged crimes are unrelated to the work Manafort and Gates did for the Trump campaign."


    "Kushner, recently stripped of his top security clearance, discussed establishing "back channel" communications with Moscow using Russian facilities. When the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russians became public last year, the president helped draft a false public statement concealing its purpose."

    This paragraph is exactly why the MSM should be rejected. It insinuates that Kushner was stripped of his clearance for allegedly (the author forgot that word) establishing back channel communications that occurred at a Trump Tower meeting for which the President then drafted an intentionally false statement. That is not an accurate or transparent record of what happened. It's barely above sensationalism.

    If Flynn was such a slam dunk, why has Mueller postponed a delay in his sentencing? Why has Flynn said that he wasn't given all the information at the time of his plea and today would consider a different option. Why doesn't the article include the plethora of advisors and staff who have testified that there has NOT been any collusion?

    The FBI, the CIA, and the intelligence community as a whole are riding very dirty.

    His duty is a multitude of responsibilities. Preventing Russian meddling doesn't make the top 10 IYAM. Why is he straddling with Putin? Why do you think?
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2018-amendments-manual-courts-martial-united-states/

    What is this about?
     
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  4. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    This is the latest being peddled by the usual gang....

    "Former CIA Director John Brennan on Friday had harsh words for President Donald Trump, calling the president "unstable, inept, inexperienced, and also unethical,"

    OMG...Brennan touting someone else as unethical? That's like Beelzebub calling someone else evil.
     
  5. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    And you still think Trump is thumb-twiddling because he's not chasing down voting machine and internet bots? Why, because you read about it online?

    What do you know about the cyber warfare facility in Augusta at Ft. Gordon? It is attached to the existing and massive NSA facility known as SWEET TEA. The new facility is not a listening facility like SWEET TEA but rather an offensive cyber warfare center. Is that what you call doing nothing?
     
  7. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    And what has Trump done or said? He gets no credit for systems/programs in place before he was inaugurated. What about the $100+ million the state Department was funded to combat Russian cyber warfare? Not one dime of that has been spent. What about the sanctions congress voted on and Trump refused to impose?
    Finally the main point of Churchill’s speech was as a clarion call to the threat posed by Soviet aggression. What has Trump said about Russian aggression or about Putin being an adversary?
    Quit defending the indefensible.
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    So the defense budget is meaningless????
     
  9. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    So what has Trump done to the defense budget to counter Russian aggression and threats? What has he done to counter the new weapons Putin announced? Where is there any difference in Trump’s defense budget from Obama’s?
    Your comment is nothing but a deflection. As I noted Trump has provided no, none absolutely zero leadership. What has he done?
     
  10. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Well that’s like, false man.
     

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