Russian issues

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  1. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    No we do not know that Trump was right when he said Obama ordered him tapped. In fact we are more sure that Trump's accusation was wrong than it was right..
     
  2. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    No evidence' to back up Donald Trump's wiretapping claims, says FBI Director James Comey
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rector-barack-obama-trump-tower-a7639766.html

    FBI Director James Comey has said that neither the Department of Justice nor his own agency had evidence to support a claim by President Donald Trump that his Trump Tower headquarters had been wiretapped during the 2016 election campaign.

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets," Mr Comey told a congressional hearing.

    "And we have looked carefully inside the FBI. The Department of Justice has asked me to share with you that the answer is the same for the Department of Justice and all its components: the department has no information that supports those tweets," he said.
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Oh I get it, its time to use the English language again. Good to know.
     
  4. GiantDuckFan

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  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Wiretap

    Surveillance

    Spy

    Bugged

    Captured

    Use whatever words "you guys" want. We all know what Comey did.



    This ordeal is closing in on the HRC issue in that the logical paths to "capturing" Trumps campaign members via "surveillance" is shortening and pointing towards Trump tower.

    How?

    Well US citizens are to be masked in these "surveillance" activities. Who and why removed the masks? We already know this was done during the Obama Admin. Then there is the FISA warrants.


    Funny tho, still zero hard evidence of "Russian Hacks".
     
  6. GiantDuckFan

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    FoxNews.com
    Press fired up as Comey rejects Trump wiretap claim
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...claim-offers-no-evidence-on-russia-probe.html

    Here's The Evidence Russia Hacked The Democratic National Committee
    http://time.com/4600177/election-hack-russia-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

    You are probably not on the list of people who have access to the classified evidence regarding the massive influence operation that targeted the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign. Most who have, including President Barack Obama, Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Republican Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain, and pretty much every Democrat in Washington D.C., believe the U.S. intelligence community which has concluded with "high confidence that the operation was directed by Russia. A distinct minority, a handful really, including Donald Trump, and @LSUpride123 say the evidence is inconclusive and the intelligence community is wrong.

    Beyond the statements of the public figures above, the only real evidence comes from the analyses of private cyber security firms that track and defend against hackers, often in concert with the FBI, NSA and other government agencies.

    One, CrowdStrike, was called in by the Democratic National Committee to analyze the hack against their computer system last April. With the DNC’s permission, CrowdStrike then posted details of what it had found. Attribution of hackers, whether by intelligence services or private firms, is a particular discipline. Much of it relies on signature methods used by the hackers, specific pieces of code, and distinguishing behavior.

    CrowdStrike’s co-founder, Dmitri Alperovitch, uncovered evidence that two groups of Russian hackers he had named Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear, had been behind the DNC hack. Cozy Bear used a tool called SeaDaddy that allowed it to stealthily exfiltrate information from a victim’s computer. The tool was almost identical to another exfiltration tool previously identified by Symantec as belonging to the group of Russian hackers known to have operated at the behest of Russia’s FSB, a main successor agency to the KGB.....

    read on there's more





     
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  7. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    High confidence is not hard evidence. Its an opinion.
     
  8. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    OK you knuckleheads who are so outraged that the Russians might have tried to influence the outcome of the election. If, and only if Trump or any of his people colluded with the Russians it would be clearly wrong and a violation of the law.

    But since there has been no real evidence that Donald Trump himself was complicit in any of this for now we have to take it that Russia did so for whatever reasons they thought was in their best interests.

    So let me ask you this: Do you believe for even one second that we wouldn't try to influence a Russian regime change if our powers that be felt like it was in our on best interests?
     
  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    No, we only do that in the Middle East... Dont have time for Russia. LOL

    Russia? Russia? We talking about Russia!

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  10. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    As I said there's smoke but we need to wait for evidence. As you said if accurate it's a violation of the law. Don't you think we should find out and investigate this fully?
    As to whether or not we would do the same you know we have. Osama did in Israel and it's been done many times over the years. However it's a false equivalence IMO. It's not what the Russians did (they see us as an enemy); it would be what the American did that is the key. Frankly if Trump or HRC or Osama or anyone else colluded with a foreign government to fix a US election it's treason.
     

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