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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Yet Obama acted on what again?
     
  2. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Obama slapped Russia with sanctions for their meddling, he seized two of their diplomatic compounds and expelled a bunch of their so-called diplomats. Stop trying to place the blame somewhere else like you love to do. Trump is to blame for his actions and decisions and no one else.

    Oh, and it was just announce that the Mueller investigation has assembled a grand jury in the Russia probe. But there's nothing to see here.......
     
  3. LSUpride123

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    how am I blaming Obama?

    I am saying obama had the same info and didnt do anything to Trump. Why?
     
  4. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    because the investigation had just begun and in this country one is innocent until proven guilty.
     
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    Mueller Plunges Across Trump's Red Line
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/mueller-grand-jury/535875/

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller has begun to issue subpoenas in his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election

    .....grand-jury subpoenas have been issued related to a June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower in which Donald Trump Jr., the president’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, and then-campaign chair Paul Manafort met with a woman they were told was a “Russian government lawyer” offering damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

    .....Some of the subpoenas are tied to fired National-Security Adviser Michael Flynn

    .....Mueller is said to be investigating whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to interfere with the election, business dealings of Trump and his associates, and whether Trump obstructed justice by firing FBI Director James Comey, asking him to drop an investigation into Michael Flynn, and other moves.

    ..... investigative journalist Murray Waas reported that several top FBI officials were told they might be called to testify about potential obstruction of justice by the president, including Acting Director Andrew McCabe. “Two senior federal law enforcement officials have told me that the new revelations illustrate why they believe the potential case against Trump is stronger than outsiders have thought,”
     
  6. LSUpride123

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    This is the funny part. The obvious honeypot is seen, by the left, as clear evidence of collusion. SO that leaves us with 1 of 2 things.

    Russia is so i'll prepared to collude that they send this 1 lawyer to "collude". If so, how was their "possible" collusion before this meeting to unmask names?

    To me, that NY times article makes more and more sense as this same "Russian Lawyer" met with Obama Admins right after her meeting with Don Jr. (which non of you acknowledge).
     
  7. LSUpride123

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...lly-shows-has-formidable-army-supporters.html

    Spot on:


    “I think we’re really headed into very choppy and dangerous constitutional waters,” Krauthammer said. “We know what the Democrats want to do. They want to get control of the House and on day one they’re going to start impeachment. Now I happen to think, as you know, I opposed the Trump candidacy. I don’t think he’s very well fit for the presidency. But fitness is not a reason for impeachment and removal. High crimes are. Here, we have a prosecutor looking for high crimes. With Watergate you started with a crime and then you try to find out how it happened. Here, they’re looking for a crime. Perhaps they’ll find one, I don’t know. As of yet I haven’t heard of one. Collusion is unseemly but it ain't a crime.”


    My bad, Fox News.....
     
  8. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    "Donald Trump Jr., the president’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, and then-campaign chair Paul Manafort met with a woman they were told was a “Russian government lawyer” offering damaging information about Hillary Clinton.",.... Immediately upon knowing that a foreign agent was involved, the FBI should have been notified,.. instead they broke FEC law and took the meeting,.. then they lied about it, and then Papa Trump helped write a bogus press release, a lying cover-up.

    As per usual, you offer up an offsetting hillbama infraction, thinking it somehow exonerates Trump and his team,.. and that guilt deflecting ploy is the same one the President uses, comes right out of Trump's playbook.

    You want to believe that article's "theory", but vehemently deny our intelligence agencies conclusions. 123, you're a good soldier who doesn't want "collusion" to be true,.. maybe you're right, we'll see

    Mueller's convening of a Federal Grand Jury marks the "end of the beginning", there's still a long way to go, and a lot of revelations to come me thinks.
     
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  9. LSUpride123

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    If this chick is a Russian "Collusions" agent, why aren't the Obama admin investigated as well? Not once did I say it exonerates Trump or his team. However, if she is an "enemy agent" why is she hanging around Obama admins and Trump team members, yet only Trump team is under question? Surely you can see the point?


    I look forward to seeing the results of how Russia won the election. So far, ZERO. All you post are opinion pieces lacking of substance.

    This Grand Jury doesnt necessarily mean what you think it does. Obviously you will "see what you want to see". As would any biased person.


    You think I am for Trump. Nope. Could care less. Yet, I challenge the presentation of facts that have been laid out and they are lacking. As is evident by the mission creep of Muellers team.

    We can take a bet if you like, but i wont be the one melting again come its conclusion.


    While the Dems continue to focus on Russia, the base that is "racist, homophobic, sexist, et al" is only going to be louder come 2020.

    For all of the faults of Trump and for all of his mean words, he is very much right in that Washington has forgotten us. That is still growing.
     
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  10. GiantDuckFan

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    you miss the point,.. I didn't say she was an enemy agent, but she is a foreigner, and it is against the law for a foreign citizen to be involved in our election, any American who cooperates with them is committing a felony,.. again, they should have notified the FBI, but they didn't, they took the meeting then lied about it.
    that's a dumb thing to say, like Trump in his speech, "any Russians here?"
    biased?.. you only believe Trump, aka Sir Lyalot, you don't even believe our intelligence agencies unanimous conclusion.
    I respect that
    Amen to that
     
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