Richard Dawkins

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  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Interesting, How many school shootings did we have tbe last 16 years compared to the 40 years before that?
    How about the child and teenage abductions and murders?

    I don't believe your view!:dis:

    For one thing look at all the illegals that are committing crimes in America.
    Are you telling me its always been like that?
    I think not!
     
  2. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Since 1994?
    I was referring to the last 50 years or so not the short term.
    I still find that hard to believe, however!
     
  3. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    lol the devil is coming for you Martin

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  4. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I'm not talking about the faith piece. There is just no historical evidence to support Jesus inventing the samurai sword. It would be hella cool if he did though.
     
  5. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    THen you'd have stuff like this happening :wink:

    http://www.devilducky.com/media/49186/
     
  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    my man richard dawkins is getting so much face time in the media, even i think he is overexposed. now he is on south park. this is an unfortunate development because south park is very preachy and smug and the lessons it teaches are ridiculously heavy-handed and self congratulatory.
     
  7. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    But at least now we know what would happen if there was no religion. The different groups of athiests would kill each other for not being the right kind of athiest.
     
  8. USMTiger

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    Sooo, if you've seen some of Dawkins works, you've seen him get yelled at by this preacher for showing him in a bad light... Apparently this major evangelical pastor is somewhat of a hypocrite: opposing gay marriage while at the same time plugging the poop-hole...
    Sadly typical.

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5112770,00.html

    COLORADO SPRINGS — The Rev. Ted Haggard stepped aside as senior pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church and resigned today as president of the National Association of Evangelicals amid allegations by a former gay male escort that the two had a three-year sexual relationship.
    The church issued a statement saying Haggard "could not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations made on Denver talk radio this morning."

    Haggard has said that the escort is lying.

    The statement said he placed himself on administrative leave pending investigation, spiritual counsel, and a decision by the church’s board of overseers, which consists of four senior pastors of other congregations.

    "I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity," Haggard said in a statement.

    "I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance."

    Mike Jones, 49, of Denver, made his allegations on the Peter Boyles show on KHOW 630 AM, saying he was compelled to come forward because he believes Haggard, an opponent of same-sex unions, is being hypocritical.

    "After sitting back and contemplating this issue, the biggest reason is being a gay man all my life, I have experience with my friends, some great sadness of people that were in a relationship through the years," and were not able to enjoy the same rights and privileges as a married man and woman, Jones told Boyles on air.

    "I felt it was my responsibility to my fellow brothers and sisters, that I had to take a stand, and I cannot sit back anymore and hear (what) to me is an anti-gay message."

    Haggard told KUSA Channel 9 that "I’ve never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I’m steady with my wife. I’m faithful to my wife."

    Jones, who told a bankruptcy judge last year that he is a self-employed fitness consultant, told Boyles that he was paid money by Haggard, who he says made frequent trips to Denver for sexual liaisons, that he has recorded voicemails and a letter from Haggard, and that he had also witnessed Haggard use methamphetamine.

    Jones offered to take a polygraph examination, and Boyles said that will occur Friday during his morning radio show.

    Some community leaders in the Colorado Springs had scheduled a rally this afternoon in support of Haggard but canceled the gathering at the request of the church.

    New Life’s board of overseers has the authority to conduct an inquiry, discipline the senior pastor, remove him from the position or restore him to ministry, the church statement said.

    New Life’s associate senior pastor, the Rev. Ross Parsley, will serve as acting senior pastor.

    "New Life Church long ago adopted an overseer model of governance for situations just like this. People need to be patient and allow this process to unfold as it was designed to do," he said.

    Haggard also led the National Association of Evangelicals. It describes its mission as extending "the kingdom of God through a fellowship of member denominations, churches, organizations, and individuals, demonstrating the unity of the body of Christ by standing for biblical truth, speaking with a representative voice, and serving the evangelical community through united action, cooperative ministry, and strategic planning."

    In a message from its president, under Haggard's picture, it is stated that the NAE is composed of 60 member denominations representing 45,000 churches across America.
     
  9. Kkille1LSU

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    I'm sorry for being so immature but Dawkins banging Mr. Garrison doggy style and motor boating hairy boobs is fun-ny. Just Sayin'
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    here are two short articles i wish people would read:

    1. why religion must end, by sam harris:

    http://www.beliefnet.com/story/191/story_19107_1.html

    best quote:

    "this whole style of believing and talking about beliefs leaves us powerless to overcome our differences from one another. We have Christians against Muslims against Jews, and no matter how liberal your theology, merely identifying yourself as a Christian or a Jew lends tacit validity to this status quo. People have morally identified with a subset of humanity rather than with humanity as a whole."

    this is what i mean when i say "be an individual". he is a little more thorough.

    2: "Why I Am Hostile Toward Religion", by dawkins.

    http://www.beliefnet.com/story/203/story_20334_2.html

    quote: "Fundamentalist religion is hell-bent on ruining the scientific education of countless thousands of innocent, well-meaning, eager young minds. Non-fundamentalist, "sensible" religion may not be doing that. But it is making the world safe for fundamentalism by teaching children, from their earliest years, that unquestioning faith is a virtue."

    these fellas are speaking my language.
     

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