Richard Dawkins

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  1. LSUDeek

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    Why should I have to explain my prayer methodology to you? Again, you are just looking for ways to attack us by casting your bait out there and seeing who gets hooked.

    You don't have all the answers, martin. Not even close.
     
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    It must be obvious to others as well!:grin: :lol:
     
  3. martin

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    of course. the difference beween me and lots of other people is that i dont claim to have any knowledge i do not have. i have not invented a whole system of beliefs to calm my nerves about the unknown. i am not telling anyone i know something they don't. i am telling them to join me in ignorance and give up on believing untruth.

    you shouldnt. it has to be embarassing to discuss how you deal with your imaginary friend because you cannot accept reality for what it is.
     
  4. LSUDeek

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    Some of us have had it revealed through situations and circumstances rather than simply hearing and listening to it from other people.

    No, sir. I just refuse to discuss it with you because you just seek to ridicule. Again, you can't possibly understand anything I tell to you until the Holy Spirit convicts you of it.
     
  5. LSUDeek

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    1 Cor 1:17-27
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  6. martin

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    like a child with an imaginary friend. because it exists only in their heads, they cant discuss it in rational terms. they have to resort to claims they saw it.

    we can talk in circles and eventually it will come down to either:

    1. i saw it, you cant tell me i didnt.
    2. i have faith in the irrational. my beliefs cannot be analyzed in terms of reality.

    and to your credit, both of these are not up for argument.

    as far as number 1, my hope is that people who use that argument would be regarded with the same respect as people who claim contact with aliens. because thats literally what you are claiming.

    and number 2, that is really nothing more than a total loss of interest in truth in reality, which frankly, i think is depressing. in all sincerity, it do feel sort of a weird embrassment and disgust that we humans remain so primitive.


    that is partially true, but not entirely. i really was curious as to your answer about prayer. i really wonder what you think makes god react regarding prayer quality and quantity. i wonder how many people it takes for god to turn his attention towards something. when a person asks for prayers, i wonder how many they feel like they need, or if god cares that you specifically mention something, or if you can just tell god "hey, dont forget everyone who needs your help" and that would cover everything. if so, that would save lots of time.
     
  7. martin

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    you are gonna have to translate the meanings of those scriptures, i cant really understand that archaic style of prose.
     
  8. LSUDeek

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    Look, I have had both impossible things and improbable things happen in my life. There's no point in elaborating.

    I would agree that is completely irrational to believe what I believe... but it's way more than just belief. It's the way that I live my whole life.

    Scripture says that it WILL BE foolishness to the world. So all of your disgust and embarrassment is to be expected, cause it was foretold.

    Explaining this any further would just be lunacy to you, so I won't go there.
     
  9. martin

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    i think maybe you should consider the odds of something very very unlikely happening, and then contrast that with the possibility that magic intervened. not only magic, but a specific sort of magic that you are into, which by coincidence happens to be the same sort of magic that dominates this particular country we happen to live in.

    some times things happen that we cannot explain. occasionally you have to accept that odd things happen, or that you do not understand it and not be so quick to think it was a wizard. that is the easy way out.


    interesting. mostly when people say well, there is x, "but", they list some mitigating circumstances or something.

    well, i dont think religions are so foolish as to not realize they appear foolish to reasonable people. doesnt seem that hard to figure out that if you are telling people to believe in insanity, that you might remind them that other people will remain sane.


    no question about it. it would be lunacy. but i still would like to hear it. it amazes me.
     
  10. marcmc99

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    100 people surveyed said this was the reason martin repeatedly nags us with his condemnation of religion on this message board:

    5. Boredom
    4. Bad experience with a priest
    3. Alzheimers
    2. Can't find his meds
    1. Nobody to listen to him, other than his HDTV and his laptop.




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