The speech was great yesterday, very open and honest, I was moved and I dont get excited about to many things. This speech was historic to me, most people would run and hide and do damage control faced with this issue. But I have to applaud him after reading the entire speech and listening to it a second time.
I'm not saying he is a Muslim and not a Christian but, to be fair, your statement apparently isn't entirely accurate either: As a boy in Indonesia, Barack Obama crisscrossed the religious divide. At the local primary school, he prayed in thanks to a Catholic saint. In the neighborhood mosque, he bowed to Allah. ... "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago," Gibbs' Jan. 24 statement said. In a statement to The Los Angeles Times on Wednesday, the campaign offered slightly different wording, saying: "Obama has never been a practicing Muslim." The statement added that as a child, Obama had spent time in the neighborhood's Islamic center. His former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama's grade-school teacher as childhood friends, say Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both of the schools he attended. That registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class. The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. ... In his autobiography, Dreams From My Father, Obama briefly mentions Koranic study and describes his public school, which accepted students of all religions, as "a Muslim school." "In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies," Obama wrote. "My mother wasn't overly concerned. 'Be respectful,' she'd say. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I would close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words." ... Bugs have eaten Obama's file in the school's archive, said Vice Principal Hardi Priyono. But two of his teachers, former Vice Principal Tine Hahiyari and third-grade teacher Effendi, said they remember clearly that at this school, too, he was registered as a Muslim, which determined what class he attended during weekly religion lessons. "Muslim students were taught by a Muslim teacher, and Christian students were taught by a Christian teacher," said Effendi, who, like many Indonesians, uses only one name. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/na...634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo
where does it say he was a muslim? I equate religion to what you have chosen to believe yourself, not a culture you were brought up in.
Uh, I guess the part where he was registered in school as a Muslim and prayed in a mosque doesn't have any meaning for you. Why don't you want Obama to be a Muslim ? We do have relgious freedom in this country, don't we ?
so what? who cares if the guy made fun of her? that's what you pick out of the sermons? i guess i wont vote for barack now, for sure. if you dont think dropping a-bombs on japan was not controversial and morally debatable then we have nothing to discuss. you are a america homer (which i hold in complete disdain---quite different from patriot). many many men should be damned and i understand why many women would think so. nothing wrong with saying it in an emotional state---wright was preaching, not writing legislation.
Oh I guess you miss the part about praying in the catholic church. but thats good cherry picking Hatch you know as well as I know that being a muslim in this country has a very negative connotation to it and its really not religious freedom when over 75% of the population in this country condems that religion. So lets not get into semantics.
Regardless of the morally debatable nature of the use of the bomb in WW2, how does that extrapolate to terrorists attacking America on 9/11? Not seeing this connection. Am I a homer because of this?
Go back and read my origianl post, I'm not saying he is a Muslim. His connection to the Muslim religion as outlined in the article I linked, to coin a new pharse, "is what it is". He does have a connection and that can't be denied. Where is your source for the statement that 75% of Americans condemn the Muslim faith? If they do so (and they don't), so be it, this is America, we, the people, have the freedom to disavow another religion if we so choose to. However, I will admit that the overwhelming majority of Americans have no use for any country, religion, or terrorist group that seeks to harm our country. We, the people, don't view such a situation as the chickens coming home to roost. The United States of America didn't "get what was coming to us" in reference to 911, as Obama's mentor stated in his speech (can't really call it a sermon since it was filled with hate). Instead, the people in our country want what every human being glued to this rock by the laws of physics wants, the opportunity to be happy and at peace.
