His statements are racailly devisive. However, they are also anti-American. I'm sure there are many African Americans who are offended by his statements. I guess Wright would have preferred a million American soldiers dying to capture Japan. And the last time a checked, it was a Democratic president, his own party, who gave the approval to drop the bombs on Japan, a decision I fully support. Basically people who disagree with Wright fall into two camps: (1) if you are white, you are a racist; and (2) if you are an African-American, you are a 'sell out'. I don't buy Obama's statement that Wright is like a crazy old uncle who says things he doesn't agree with from time to time. These two have had a twenty year relationship with Wright marrying the Obama's and baptizing their children. Obama denies being present during the sermons that the media has been playing. That may very well be true. However, if Wright is willing to make those statements in public, what do you think he shared with Obama in private ? Furthermore, don't you think someone who was present for the sermons would have told BHO what was said ? Yet he continued to attend the church appointed Wright as an advisor to the campaign. Given Wright's rhetoric, I don't find Obama's wife's comments about being proud of her country for the first time surprising at all. Can you imagine what it would be like if a white candidate would be connected to a minister who preached the opposite of what Wright is preaching ?
you couldnt be more wrong on this. If Obama said these things himself, I would be all over this and he would lose my support. He didnt say it, his pastor said it. How is it different from Geraldine Ferraro, who has been a Clinton surrogate for years and has raised alot of money for her. Its guilt by association. I wouldnt call Clinton a racist nor McCain from his supporter nor Obama. They didnt say the inflammatory words. So it is guilt by association. People are stuck on his relationship and membership with the church. The comments were wrong, I have been in church for years and I have heard pastors mix politics and religion, but I have never heard a pastor go this far. I totally disagree with the pastor and I believe different from what he says. You just dont like Obama and this is just more of a reason for you to say he is not electable. But thank God you are not the final say. He will lose some votes from this. But the people who are keep this going were against him to begin with, which is what your point of view seems to be. but is cool though we have our opinions, thats the beauty of this:thumb:
Very risky statement he made in the speech today.....as reported by CNN (I am quoting CNN who is quoting Obama. To be clear, saying slavery was bad is not wrong but anyone who says the constitution is stained is stepping out on a limb.
Here is another quote in his speech, that in my eyes is pretty powerful and it explains somethings to me!
Well, anyone that can overlook the impact of this spiritual leader upon Obama will have problems with this concept. Like it or not, it is a serious issue and Obama recognizes it. He is not trying to convince the average liberal democrat. He is trying to convince the moderate democrat, republican, and independent voter that he is, and can be an inclusive president. It's a bit of a stretch for most people to believe that this Rev. has had little or no influence on him. The man maintained his status at the pleasure of the congregation. If they didn't like it, they would either leave, or force him(Rev Wright) to leave. The fact that Obama did not leave this church can be extrapolated that he either agrees with the man or at the very least is not bothered by his statements and philosophy. It is impossible to believe that he was unaware of them. Reasonable people will reach this conclusion and it is unlikely that Obama will shake this stigma. It does seem to fly in the face of the candidate's basic message of inclusiveness and an attempt to do things differently from other politicians. Now that he has to back peddle and push this man away, it tends to look like a politician saying what he has to in order to explain away a fault. Obama is supposed to be different.
I disagree with Mastermind's opinion that Obama doesn't feel this way. Who would consciously chose to follow this "leader" for 20 years when they disagree with such a major issue & constant topic brought up by the man... It doesn't make sense. Obama may not completely agree with him, but it is very obvious to me that Obama doesn't reject these notions.
Sounds to me like Obama is trying to rationalize the pastor's comments rather than repudiate them He's on a slippery slope right now.
So even though he rejected the comments, you believe his is lying. Like I said before, most people here and those who disagree with him on this situation imo werent going to vote for him anyway. so i can respect your viewpoint:thumb:
The polls don't reflect that. He is losing the moderate vote at an alarming rate. It will be a difficult issue to overcome.
