Restaurant smoking ban in Baton Rouge

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    1. the fact that you allow people in your business shouldnt mean you cant set your own policies.

    2. the words ingress and egress are a bit ostentatious for a normal person to use. the rest of us dont work in the traffic industry.

    pretentious and paternalistic people are again attempting to force their will on the rest of us, continiung a trend that opposes personal choice and responsibility and favoring big government.

    people need to learn to deal with the dangers of smoking on their own. if they think the risk of secondhand smoke is something to consider, then that is definitely something they ought to be able to manage on their own without involving our horrible government. if i was worried about secondhand smoke (and i am not, nor will i ever be), i would voluntarily avoid it, without telling anyone else what to do.

    i dunno how many times we have to learn that our government sucks cock, and that is just the way things will always be, and they should control as few things as possible.

    there are risks in life, some very dangerous, some really not dangerous at all. we all make choices on how much we are willing to risk. some people might not wear seatbelts, others may not give a damn about secondhand smoke. and that is their decision. (although if i gave a damn about the person i would be on their ass to wear seatbelts, and never give a second thought to secondhand smoke).

    our lives, our choices. not the government's.
     
  2. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    What government assistance do you think a company like McDonald's gets? You don't have to receive anything from the government to be a publicly traded company.

    Same goes for tax incentives. We all receive some form of tax incentives. Are you saying that gives the government the right to tell you what to do in your home b/c you claim the child credit on your taxes?

    The only thing that may qualify for what you are talking about are government backed loans and grants. I don't know the numbers, but I bet you it's not anywhere near 1-50 that you claim.

    By your definition, there are no "private" businesses in this country.


    But the law includes those people as well. And this law isn't limited to just restaurants, it's any business. Of course, it excludes bars and casinos b/c they give huge amounts of money to politicians. I guess the government don't care about those people, huh?
     
  3. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    I guess some of you are in favor of this legislation as well. Last I heard, this law is awaiting the Governor's signature:

    Next will be banning smoking in your home when children are inside...
     
  4. Robidoux87

    Robidoux87 You call that a double?

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    Some of you can't seriously believe that a cloud of smoke that is trapped indoors isn't a health risk.

    I happen to believe that it is my right to not reek of smoke just because I wanted some chicken wings and a beer. Smokers really should be considerate enough to excuse themselves and walk outside anyway.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'm with you on gumbo, insurance, and fishing holes, amigo, but I'll go with the Surgeon General of the United States on this one. The evidence is piling up.

    LINK:New Surgeon General’s Report Focuses on the Effects of Secondhand Smoke
    June 27, 2006
    U.S. Surgeon General Richard H. Carmona today issued a comprehensive scientific report which concludes that there is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke. Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their risk of developing heart disease by 25 to 30 percent and lung cancer by 20 to 30 percent. The finding is of major public health concern due to the fact that nearly half of all nonsmoking Americans are still regularly exposed to secondhand smoke.

    The report, The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke, finds that even brief secondhand smoke exposure can cause immediate harm. The report says the only way to protect nonsmokers from the dangerous chemicals in secondhand smoke is to eliminate smoking indoors.

    Read the rest . . .
     
  6. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    That's not the point. The issue is what role the government should play in our daily lives.

    There is no greater health risk to children these days than obesity. You want government to tell parents what food they can give them? You want the government to step in and take fat children away from their parents? It's starting to happen, my friend.

    This is not about smoking for me. As a recent ex-smoker, I'd love nothing more than to have every pack of cigs removed from this planet to remove any temptation to smoke.

    Some people want government to take care of them and solve all their problems ... I do not.
     
  7. Robidoux87

    Robidoux87 You call that a double?

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    When someone eats a Big Mac in my vicinity, I don't get some of it into my own system. Specks of burger and special sauce do no float in the air around me.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Use of a broad vocabulary is not ostentatious.

    The majority rules in a democracy. Live with it.

    Sorry.
    Most of us prefer to eat our cheeseburgers without smelling your burning tobacco and our representatives realize it. It's how democracies work and does not indicate favoring big government. The law favors majority opinion and the bill of rights. Your personal choices and rights end when they infringe on the rights of others.
     
  9. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    Fine, don't start crying when government intrudes into things that do affect you.

    It'll be too late...
     
  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    It's gullible sorts like you that made Kentwood rich.:wink:
     

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