states are a stupid way to analyze it, as its about cities. you cant compare ny state to NYC. or chicago to rural illinois. the violence largely correlates with black populations. thats why vermont has lots of guns but low gun violence.
That's true. I should have said cities when talking about lawlessness when I was talking about Chicago. slip of the tongue.
its also flawed to look just at gun deaths, as huge numbers of them are suicide, and while thats terrible, its not threatening to other folks besides the shooter
Compared to every other advanced nation in this world. Compared to abortion? Abortion doesn't kill persons.
well no other nation has such a large black population. our white gun death rates are similar to europe. blacks are just 13% of the population bur near 60% of gun violence
What's your sorry excuse for Alaska and Wyoming, each quite rural, each with very white populations, each with high rates of gun ownership, and each with among the highest rates of gun death. And Vermont's laws governing gun sales and ownership are quite stringent vis-a-vis Republican controlled states. You're not an honest person.
i think you should remove suicide from those states and then ask again. whats your excuse for vermont? huge gun rates but very low violence. again, its more or less a direct correlation with black population. salt lake city, low deaths, memphis, high deaths. spokane, low violence, new orleans, high violence.
What's your sorry excuse for Alaska and Wyoming, each quite rural, each with very white populations, each with high rates of gun ownership, and each with among the highest rates of gun death. And Vermont's laws governing gun sales and ownership are quite stringent vis-a-vis Republican controlled states. You're not an honest person.
