Repealing the First Amendment

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    We wouldn’t have any of that without fossil fuels.
     
  2. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Too simplistic Pride. Man has been using fossil fuels since the invention of fire. I don’t know if you’re old enough to remember London fogs and Pittsburgh in the 1950’s where coal smoke killed thousands. Likewise as @kluke says other important developments created the conditions for this increase in life expectancy. This includes understanding the germ theory of disease, and advances in food production as well as the attendant understanding of need for clean water and waste management.
    However it’s certainly true that finding more efficient and effective ways to produce and use power. We couldn’t have the infrastructure to support these developments without the adaptation of electricity and its power. The most important thing is that a modern society needs dense, reliable and cheap power. Right now natural gas and nuclear are the best at filling this needs. That doesn’t mean we should be satisfied with the status quo. We and the rest of the world will need ever increasing power and no potential source should be ignored.
     
  3. LSUpride123

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    Its not too simplistic is a god damn fact.
     
  4. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Well if use of fossil fuels is the reason for the increase in life span what happened over the first couple of hundred thousand years man was using fossil fuels?????
     
  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Progressing....

    I dont know why people just want to ignore what stares them in the face.
     
  6. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    I think it was freon guys.
     
  7. kluke

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    OK, I'll play. As an aside I'm in the energy industry and agree with the need to use fossil fuels until better sources for energy are found.
    • If increased life expectancy is tied to fossil fuel use; and since the use of fossil fuels has steadily increased in the last 100+ years; why did life expectancy start a downward trend in 2015 for the first time - other than war years?
    • Other than public health measures the other big contributor to increased life expectancy is the significant drop in infant and child mortality rates. How did fossil fuels do that?
    • Please show data of life expectancy by birth year and a graph of follis fuel use by year and how they coincide -
     
  8. LSUpride123

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    2 words: Diminishing Returns.

    Let me explain.

    Because we reached the peak of easy mode and people don't have fear of dying anymore. Therefore they are mostly lazy unhealthy turds addicted to porn, drugs, alcohol and changing genders. Because of fossil fuels, you can literally sit inside and do nothing. All your needs will be met. Survival food delivered to you, furniture, health care. Whatever you want is shipped to you.

    We can act sophisticated and ponder on what is the cause, but often the answer is the simplest.

    I am also not gonna show you anything. Kiki made the claim and you said he was wrong. I just happen to agree with him.

    Stop dealing in absolutes. Kiki made the claim that use of fossil fuels increased life, it did, but that does not mean (nor did he claim) it had/has no negatives. There is always a point of diminishing returns.
     
  9. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    This is one of the dumber statements Ive read here--sorry kluke. Fossil fuels are hugely responsible for the dramatic rise in population and an increase in standard of life! from agriculture to modern medicines not possible without fossil fuels! The industrial revolution was driven by them which changed the world forever.

    Fossil energy has been a fundamental driver of the technological, social, economic and development progress which have followed. Fossil fuels (coal, oil, gas) have, and continue to, play a dominant role in global energy systems.
     
  10. Rex

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    As I said, by the correlation it's quite obvious that declining church attendance has been the driving force behind increased life expectancy. :)
     

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