Red, White and Cinco de Mayo

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  1. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    If they are racists or hate America, I completely understand why they were upset. I think they would've also been upset had the kids (wearing American shirts) been black, Asian, Hispanic, etc.

    It's the "la raza" in them showing their true colors.

    I remember a high school in San Diego which had a La Raza club, MECHA club, gay & lesbian club, and several others based on race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. but when a student (girl) attempted to start an American club to promote the ideals of America, she was threatened with suspension and called a racist.

    Once again it's funny how some people are quick to call others a racist but refuse to look in the mirror.

    I enjoy listening to one America's biggest racists (Al Sharpton) explain why he's ineligible to ever be a racist. He claims his skin color and lack of power prevent him from being a racist. :hihi:

    The sad part is some are so stupid they believe him. :insane:

    The Fourth of July doesn't fall within the school year but if it did what do you think the kids with Mexican heritage would do? If any wore a Mexican flag shirt would the VP have threatened to send them home? I'm guessing it would've been tolerated or welcomed because the last thing anyone wants to do is offend someone in a "politically incorrect" manner.

    You can also expect anyone who complained about someone wearing a Mexican shirt on an American holiday would still be the one called a racist. Either way they would consider themselves the "victims" and the Americans the "racists".

    Pulling the race card works as long as we allow it!

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  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the mexican kids are not mexican nationalists or *******s or whatever. they are just kinda dumb. they know that the other kids are wearing the american flags just to be irritating. that is clearly true. the mexican kids just need to realize that there is nothing really wrong with being mildly irritating and should ignore them and be aware of how serious people are (and should be) when free expression is questioned.

    again, i definitely understand why the mexican kids are angry, because they are aware that the flag kids are just stirring the pot. what the mexican kids need to be aware of is that stirring the pot is kinda awesome.
     
  3. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    perfect! :thumb:
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    freedom of expression doesnt get folks hurt. violence gets people hurt. you sound like the muslim apologists defending the rage against the muhammad cartoons.
     
  5. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    this had nothing to do with patriotism. or it was patriotism at its worst. they were looking for a fight, because they are stupid kids and were probably reflecting the obtuse views theyd heard at the dinner table.


    this wasnt anti-american either. they were pissed at the few jerks that were trying to disrespect them.

    as you said, they probably dont really know what cinco de mayo is about. it could have been about any mx holiday.



    because one is "celebrating" and the other is trying to piss on it.




    not breaking balls at all, but i think it may indicate that the decision wasnt an official school position.

    what do you mean by that? certainly they dont think they are that big a deal normally. they know mx is 3rd world and all that goes with it, and the US is not. but temporarily they are sort of the center of the universe considering how heated the immigration debate has gotten recently. anyway theyre kids, i prefer that they feel important.

    it means your view of "i dont really give a ****" about the reasons for things is very texan. very zero-tolerance caveman bs.

    let 200 kids beat on 5 and then hand out discipline?

     
  6. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    it sounds like the situation had to be diffused. i wouldnt want the school making some ideological stand at the expense of the children's safety.

    i strongly support the right of the press to publish "insensitive" cartoons, but i wouldnt want my son's school newspaper to do the same.
     
  7. Krypto

    Krypto Huh?

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    and your shiny happy, everyone is right no one is wrong, Dr Phil reality is the reason this country is going down the ****ter.
     
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  8. Swerved

    Swerved It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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    Now that's some weak BS and you know it. Could have been about any other Mexican holiday? But it just so happened to be on Cinco De Mayo when the stink was made about it? Then you try to patronize me by switching to my point when yours was proven wrong?


    How do you know the kids with the American flag shirts weren't celebrating? Prove their intent, I dare you. Perhaps they were celebrating the Union's role in Mexico's win over the French. Maybe they were celebrating July 4th early since they won't be in school for it. Afterall, it could have been about any American holiday... right?

    You see how ridiculous that weak reasoning is in the above post you made? Probably not. Nevermind.

    Ok, President Clinton.

    Again, you're splitting hairs and not seeing the forest for the trees. Who gives a blue crap whether it's the vice-principal or the principal or the janitor that made the decision. They sure tried to impose it like it was "official".. Those kids had every bit as much of a right to wear those flag shirts as the Mexican kids had to get pissed off. Only the Mexican kids couldn't deal with it.. People seem to forget that just like they have the right to be offended, people have the right to piss them off. It's a give/take thing and everyone has to deal with it. Nobody's supposed to be an exception to the rule.


    Nice tactic. And FWIW, I'm just clinging to my guns, not my religion. I'm an agnostic.
     
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  9. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    if normal freedom of speech doesnt apply, then it shouldnt apply to both groups. maybe next year the principal should say that cinco de mayo wont be celebrated and no wearing of mexican flag apparel will be allowed. after all, its disrespectful of those that are american citizens to allow the representation of another countries flag. care to guess how that will go over?

    i see. because you dont agree with the "obtuse views" kids are hearing at the dinner table, they shouldnt be free to express these views.

    so maybe the kids that wore the american flag clothing felt disprected by a celebration of cinco de mayo at their school. would you advocate that the celebration (including mexican dancers) not be allowed next year so that some students dont get pissed and feel disrespected? respect goes two ways. one group gets to celebrate their culture, the other doesnt? doesnt sound like a good lesson for kids to me.

    that is a matter of opinion. maybe the kids that got punished may feel they were the ones pissed on.

    im with swerved. it has nothing to do with religions. i'll stick to my .38 special with hollow points. a sweet little gun, btw. it was customized to me with a softer trigger because of all of my hand surgeries.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    wrong. you never alter the rules because of the threat of violence. you let kids wear flags, even if fights might happen. because if fights happen, the problem is idiotic parents/kids that should be expelled anyways. best that you know who the thugs are and get rid of them. fighting over shirts is unaccepable. the solution is not to ban free expression. thats the cowards way out.
     
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