RB BY Committee

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  1. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    O.K. now I'll be serious.


    I'm not going to blame him for a completely winded and cramping defense allowing UT to score 20+points late in that game.

    UF was a total team meltdown. Special teams looked like crap, the D let Tebow look like a god, running game didn't work for chit, but you want to blame JR when not a single phase of the game worked?

    AU, even after the controversial officiating, LSU was still in position to win it. He did well, and marched LSU right down the field twice in the final minutes of that game, only to be robbed. No way in hell am I going to blame him totally for that game.

    Was JR perfect? Hell no. I have never seen a perfect QB. Tom Brady even threw a pick at the end of the AFC champ game last year. Why didn't he "step up" in the big game?
     
  2. "Hurricane"

    "Hurricane" Founding Member

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    What?!! He beat a #3 Alabama, a #6 Arkansas, a top 15 ASU, a nationally ranked OSU, and led a great comeback against a #11-12 Iowa. All those are NOT big games? His only 4 losses were to TN (defense fell apart), GA (all team was off), FLA (similar to the GA game) and Auburn (whenever he made a great play it was called back). And he actually performed well against Auburn (270 yards). Hell, if Peyton Manning can throw 7 INT in the playoffs alone and still be called the best in the league, then I think JaMarcus is alright. The point is he made some mistakes, but he learnt from it. He came very raw from high, but he progressed nicely. I would like to see any other SEC QB not do the same kind of mistakes, they're common. He saved our a$$ on plenty of occasions, so lets just be thankful. Plus, he made mediocre teams look so damn awful.
    Obviously thats why you're not a QB. Throwing it into the hands of the defenders on the very last play isnt a really great decision. I'll stick to what I said, you have playmakers at WR like the ones we had, then I'll trust them to try to do something. If they couldnt, there is no one to blame. If he threw an INT at the very last play of the game, everybody would've wanted to bench his a$$, if it did luckily go through, he would be the QB of the century.
    Yeah they screwed big time, and everytime we seemed to pick up a big play on third down, the play gets called back. But still not an excuse. Why keep running the ball all through the game when it failed and produced negative or no yardage. We waited until late in the game when it was obvious that our only option was to throw it.
    2 were. 1 probably late in the 3rd, Im not sure. But the point was throwing was our only option, and everybody seemed off, including JaMarcus. Chevis fumbled a punt, Doucet fumbled a KO, Bowe was so nervous (2 passes went off his hands into the hands of the defender), LaFell looked lost on that INT (he didnt even jump to get it), etc...The defense played really good at first causing TO and everything, but they were tired because of how much time they were left on the field. Still, the defense had a great game.
    About the blaming thing, that's not what someone who knows football would do. You MUST watch the game more than once to start putting blames. See what went wrong, where were the mistakes, who did which mistake, etc..
     
  3. 100%TigerBred

    100%TigerBred Founding Member

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    ok my very first post in this topic was not to solely put the blame on JR it was meant to show that it wasn't just the running game that cost us our two losses last year. And also like i said the wins and losses go on who? The QB and the Coach. JH is not 25-4 when he starts, no its JR. So, yes when you talk about the game he lost them. I am sure that i am not the only one that says he wasn't a big game QB. He had flashes of greatness, but thats just it flashes. Also my original post talked about the whole team playing bad in the UF game and the refs in the AU game. So, read everything before you say i only blame JR.
     
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  4. "Hurricane"

    "Hurricane" Founding Member

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    I understand that. But the way you wrote it was the main reason is Russell, and other reasons are this and that. A loss should be blamed on everyone that didnt perform up to the standards (whoever that may be).:thumb:
     
  5. 100%TigerBred

    100%TigerBred Founding Member

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    I understand what you are saying. I realize that a lose is a lose. and they suck and we dont need any this year. I guess it is just eaiser to poing out a QB's flaws in a game. And i was wrong.:( :cuss:
     
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  6. "Hurricane"

    "Hurricane" Founding Member

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    True, that's why being a QB sucks..:hihi:
     
  7. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    I know it seems that way, but that isn't true. I've seen the playcalls broken down from that game and we threw a lot more than we ran the ball throughout the entire game, including the first half.
     
  8. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    2006 auburn game passes per plays by series

    1 of 3
    5 of 8
    2 of 3
    2 of 3
    8 of 13 (and 2 qb rushes-might have been called pass plays)


    2nd half
    3 of 7
    2 of 3
    5 of 5
    3 of 8 (one qb rush)
    7 of 7

    LSU obviously did not run much.

    the only spot in the entire game that seems too conservative was the 2nd to last drive with 7 min left in 4th. after getting two 1st downs there was a 3yd jv rush, then -2yd jh rush, then jr 1yd rush (qb sneak or scramble?) then 4th and 8 pass. but its hard to fault coaches too much for one series. besides, this 4th and 8 incomplete pass may have been the interference no call, i dont remember.

    in revisiting the game, seems like a major decision (which didnt work well for lsu) was to not go for 4-1 from lsu 48 in 4th (with 13 min left) but to go for 4-8 with 3 min to go. thats pretty understandable to me.

    another hindsight observation is that didnt try for 48yd FG down 7-3 early in the 4th (at the above mentioned 4th and 8 with 3 min to go). david had hit from 42 earlier and wouldve had a chip shot on the last drive to win 9-7. was it unlikely that the D would stop them 3 and out after that like they did?
     
  9. furduknfish

    furduknfish #ohnowesuckagain

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    I know this thread is old but it sure did get hi-jacked quick...

    I liked the initial breakdown of the coming season RBBC, especially since the AB change, but the rehashing of those two 06 games is like opening new wounds.:cry:

    About the RBBC definition, maybe a new term should be created. Suggestions? How bout RBBSP (by skill position or just skill). I tend to think schools with lesser talent/depth fall into the RBBC, where they are just gambling on the law of averages.

    Later tirk,
    Fur
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Deep at Running Back. Depth is a good thing.
     

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