It ain't an either/or situation. I'm damned if I see why it is so important to some tigerfans to show "love" for only one quarterback. LSU is going to need both quarterbacks this year. Nick is going to play both quarterbacks. I don't give a rat's ass who starts as long as Jimbo and Nick are there making decisions about who needs to be in the game. Nick will pull a player and put him back in if needed. Having BOTH quarterbacks ready is better than having ONE quarterback ready. An injury at QB can ruin your season otherwise, remember 2002?
This was a very, VERY weak attempt at a post on this site. It's kind of sad, because this guy usually comes with some pretty good stuff... The "butt love" as you call it was heaped on Randall by Saban & Fisher after an offseason, a spring camp, and a fall camp. Better than 30 different opportunities and no less than 3 live game scrimmage opportunities. Countless film sessions, position coach meetings, and personal evaluations. You are not questioning the homosexual nature of our love for Marcus Randall. You're questioning the homosexual nature of the coaching staff's love for Marcus Randall. Fisher & Saban named Randall the starter. Not the board. Not other LSU fans. Not callers to local radio shows. The coach's did. You're calling them out, not us. I'd be careful doing that until you can show us your first check for a million dollar sum that came from coaching, recruiting, or talent evaluating. I'm guessing that you haven't made dime 1 from coaching on that level, with those types of athletes. So it'd be best if you'd push yourself away from the keyboard when your thought processes lead you to that type of missive. You're falling dangerously close to "Fightin(Insanity)TIGER" status here. You're questioning the best coaching staff in America, and you're saying that Saban started Randall because of an obligation as opposed to his mantra of playing the best player at each position relative to LSU winning the game. Either Saban felt obligated, as you are intimating, and Saban has been lying to LSU and its fans through the media for over 5 years now, or it's something else. Something I agree with much more than your rambling vitriolic diatribe. It's that Saban & Fisher truly thought Randall could do it. They still might think that Randall serves a purpose. They agree with you & istlstl, and even myself and Fightin(Insanity)TIGER. Russell is our future. The future is now. Having said that, Saban has past history to show what happens to new quarterbacks in their first start in adverse conditions. Davey versus Auburn in 1999. No one remembers that 41-7 debacle, other than Booty going 29-58. But Davey started and threw two first quarter interceptions. He was not gone back to until the Arkansas game, to end the year. Mauck versus Virginia Tech in '02...26-8 final score, and the brook trout look. Randall versus Auburn in '02 (USC was his first start, but that was at home and the defense had Damien James in that game. It was not a start in "adverse conditions")... It's not conducive to success. Look at how Davey came in against Tennessee. Or how Randall came in against Ole Miss in '02. Look how Davey did in '00 against Georgia Tech in the Peach Bowl. The point you take from this is that a backup or "the future" at quarterback needs to be brought along in as much of a stress free environment as possible. Saban calls it "clutter" and he has mentioned is specifically as well as his aversion to put his young quarterbacks through it early on in the season. He needs to start Randall to protect his psyche, because we will need him. We need him to take the pressure of starting off of Russell. At this point, we need them both. Beyond that, and them in a certain extent protecting the other and themselves at the same time, they bring different and very effective aspects to the game. Randall can get out and run like a gazelle. He's a talented scrambler and can run the option (if only Fisher calls it!). Russell will stretch the field vertically and open up the running game if it's been gummed up. He will not fear throwing. It's his forte. Bottom line: Saban's decision on the starter will surprise me only if Russell starts. Not that I think Randall can go the whole game or beat Auburn by himself. Just that Russell won't have to worry about the pressure of starting with Randall getting the psychological self confidence from knowing he will continue to start. I like the arrangement, and trust the coaching staff. Obviously, the person I quoted does not. How else can he explain his post?
A quarterback that WASN'T READY. Wasn't it great that when JR couldn't go TWICE in the Oregon State game, a quarterback came in and moved the ball, including scoring the winning touchdown? Nick has two quarterbacks ready and we won the game because of it. It's a long season . . . two is better than one.
I want to keep this thread going because I agree with TE and that doesn't happen too often. :wink: Although we didn't see it against OSU in the slop and didn't need it against ASU, I suspect the Auburn defense might have to deal with it.
Has JR competed a pass to anyone other then dwayne bowe? It could get pretty ugly for JR if he cant start spreading the ball around. This is probably why he isnt going to be our starter for the auburn game.
SabanFan, more often than not our philosophies are in line with one another, but not this time. For discussion purposes, why wouldn't Jimbeaux just pound it straight ahead given the advantage in O-line and a stable of power backs? AU's linebackers are undersized, but very mobile and reasonably disciplined - not necessarily what you want to go up against with an option running attack. However, a full-on frontal assault seems to have an effect on just such an opponent. If a frontal assault can force safeties forward, then LSU would be able to exploit the secondary with it's obvious speed........Plus the option-attack is prone to turnovers when used a a gimmick offense rather than full-time.....
We used the option last year for a large portion of the season as part of our base offensive offering. Not because we used it as a gimmick. We can run it, and we were good at it. We used it because the opposing defense has to take a portion of time and teach defending it. The option is hard to defend against out of a base front. DC's and position coach's have to take precious practice time away from the majority of preparation and teach defending against the option. This means they have to remember that much more. Not only the multiple sets. Not only the I formation. Not only the shotgun. Not only the fullback split out wide, as we showed last night. But, now you have to worry about the option. The spread, the I, the no back, the shotgun, the Pro sets, and yes, the option. That's a lot of sets and fronts to prepare against. It's exactly why Saban likes to be multiple. The more a defense has to prepare for, the less opportunity they'll have to be successful against it all. You may stop the option. You may stop the spread. But, you might not stop the shotgun or the pro set. It's part of the chess game. P.S.-->Swoop. Russell hit Doucet for a touchdown, and also went to Addai often against Oregon State. Bowe had 5 catches last week, and if I'm not mistaken, so did Addai. That's 10 completions, and between Randall & Russell, they had 14 completions. Which means that they were both spreading the ball around decently. I also think that with Green's emergence from his injured status and return against Auburn, we'll be that much more effective (reverse, anyone?)...
Carter, Doucet and Davis all caught balls from him. You obviously didn't watch the game. Nice try though.