Yeah, an old girlfriend of mine was a tea head with very proper ideas about how tea should be made and consumed. She gave me a screened tea ball to make tea a cup at a time from loose leaves. And a little wooden tool to transfer honey to a cup of tea. Well I don't like honey in tea and that thing has never been used. The silver tea ball is a work of art, a fine screened sphere from a design 600 years old. It never gets used either. I love a country where you can buy 100 different teas in tea bags for quick effortless hot tea without any silly tea ceremony or trendy kitchen accessories. Microwave a mug of water and drop in a bag and it's fucking tea time.
If Glucose is bad [which btw, constitutes half of honey], then why does your liver manufacture it?? If Fructose is bad, then why is it the primary sugar of all fruits, and your body has this pathway called the pentose shunt [which is a metabolic pathway for 5 carbon sugars .. ie., Fructose] to utilize it as a primary energy source?? Neither of these sugars are bad when consumed appropriately. That's the magic word ... "appropriately". You picked a really poor comparitor ... "diet coke". A lot of research has showed that the psychology of drinking Diet Cokes leads to an increase in consumption of calories. Hence .. all the "FAT PEOPLE" you see .. drink diet cokes. It's pretty well documented that diet cokes don't lead to weight loss, but rather in most cases, actually lead to the opposite. That pretty much trashes your rationale that my "rat studies" on caloric restriction plays into your position. Drinking a Diet Coke and eating two Big Macs as opposed to drinking a regular soda and one Big Mac ... well ... you do the math, but I can tell you, the diet coke guy is consumming several hundred more calories than the guy drinking the regular coke. I had to go back and see what your response was to see the mindset of what you where saying. I agree, people who think artificial sweeteners are "bad" because they are not natural are wrong. But really .... it's all about what makes you feel good about yourself. If muching granola sweetened with Honey makes you feel like your eating healthy, and your health reflects that you are healthy, then by all means .. keep on keeping on. In contrast, if drinking diet cokes makes you feel you are being healthier, but your not healthy, ya might want to reconsider your position. May I suggests the "Cave Man Diet"?? Little Sugar [just what you get from the natural foods you eat], no artificial sweeteners, no bread, no noodles .. in fact no processed food at all outside of cooking. OH .. and no additional salt either. Just water, meat, fruits, vegetables, nuts, eggs and milk. I'll promise you, you can't get more healthy than that ... it taste like shit .. but what the hell ... we're not talking about taste here ... we're talking health.
there is a difference between what your body produces and what you should ingest. if you dont agree then i have a list of horrible things you might want to eat, many of them acidic enough to melt your teeth. this is a non-point. health is not defined by fruit. some fruits are poison. thats nice. virtually every person on earth would benefit from eating fewer calories. diet coke is better for you than tea with honey because of the calorie difference. unless you are starving. water is probably better still, but caffiene helps burn calories and is safe, so diet coke and water would make a good combo that satisfy all your non alcoholic fluid needs. the argument there is that diet coke makes people crave sweets. was that part of my argument? i dont beleive that it was. person A drinks diet coke, person B drinks organic green tea, with organic honey from an organic farm from the most organic place on earth. person A is healthier. my argument is definitely weaker if you pretend it was that a person consuming extra big macs is not as healthy. that wasnt my position. maybe i will pretend that your argument is that you think people should eat penis shaped gelatin molds of lard 6 times a day. man you are stupid thats a terrible idea. you are talking to me like i havent read every paleo book ever written, like i dont read gary taubes and mark sisson. i do, i know everything about these diets. fewer calories are better. especially sugar calories. ergo, diet coke is better for you than tea with organic honey. case closed.
Nonsense .. Glucose is glucose. Doesn't matter if we are talking about "grape sugar" .. pure glucose, or the glucose made in your liver in response to Glucagon. Martin .. this is pure B.S. Person A and B, both in perfect health, one drinks a cup of green tea sweetened with honey, and the other a diet coke .... there would be absolutely .. positively .. not a damn bit of difference in their health after they drink it. In fact, they could repeat tomorrow, and there still would not be a single, measurable difference in their health. I mean .. come'on dude .. the whopping 5.7 g of sugar in a tsp of Honey wouldn't even register ... all 21 calories of it. "Paleo" .. as in Paleoentology??? .. as in fossils?? What the hell does that have to do with nutrition and human physiology?? fewer calories are better .. yes .. but your scenario doesn't hold up. Calories are Calories .. no matter how you slice them, because they are a measurement of heat and energy. So .. I would counter your argument that if Person A and Person B consume the same amount of calories per day ... it's not going to make doodly squat that a whopping 21 calories of Person A [less than 1% of daily intake at 2500 Ca per day] came from a tsp of honey in a cup of tea. If you are going to diss on sugar, you might as well get to dissing on potatoes, bread, pasta, and a whole host of other fruits and vegetables. We break them all down to sugar, except cellulose [fiber], because we don't have the ability to break the glucose-glucose bond in cellulose. Just sayin'
Well, yes . . . but this applies to almost everything including arsenic. But several hundred calories less than he was drinking before he switched. Where is the fun of being at the top of the food chain if you don't have some fun. Everything in moderation is generally healthy even if less is better than more.
All this talk about sugar and honey has me wanting a peanut butter and honey sandwich. No fancy wooden honey tool, just squeezed from the plastic bear.
no i meant there is not an argument that because your body makes something, then that thing should be part of your diet. your body makes stomach acid. should you eat stomach acid? your body producing glucose in the liver is not the same as you eating glucose. this is the thing people do not understand. dietary X is not the same as X. for example, if your bones are short of calcium, you cant solve that simply by eating calcium. your bones are short of calcium because of a failure of your body to properly regenerate your bones, not a shortage of dietary calcium. fewer calories are better. i didnt say the difference was massive. i am pointing out the flaw in logic that because something is natural means it is better. plenty of natural things are poison and synthetic things are fantastic. you dont keep up with the nutrition world do you? it does hold up. wrong. thats my point. calories are definitely not calories. it is far more complicated than that. my point was that the guy drinking diet coke consumes fewer calories, and in particular fewer calories from carbs. it matters that they are carbs because all calories are not equal. correct, you should not eat those things. carbs are ok to eat in the presence of fiber, such as in natural things like vegetables and fuits. fiber should always be consumer with carbs. thats the actual reason natural whole foods are better, not just because they are natural. honey, while natural, is not good for you.
At some point you've probably directly or indirectly called everyone on here stupid, it's part of your charm ......oh and you are wrong, Honey is way better for you than sugar.
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