Proof the world is ending

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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    To be fair, there are some great and Godly men who are priests and who have spoken up. Just not enough and just not the dude in the pointy hat. So why not text them and ask their thoughts on the subject?

    I obey the law as well and yet if I was a parent with an altar boy as a child and he told me he'd been abused, I'd have to think long and hard about whether to first tell the media or the po-po.

    Sick scum. I don't think shane needs the booze though, for that. No good dad would.
     
  2. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    It's not a matter of that, per se. Whatcha think they're gonna say, you silly woman. It's a matter of them taking the lead on it, in the position they are in and not remaining silent about it.
     
  3. dachsie

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    Hmm
     
  4. dachsie

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    To a cynic I am sure that is correct

    I was referring to the big event - you are smart enough to have figured that out.

    So of the 1000s that were abused from 1940s on, no one could have come forward when other people across the country were? That's what we were referring to. These same adults that are all over he news now. Of course we know why a kid doesn't report. Do you think I am stupid or something? You are a little too abrasive to have a reasonable discussion with.

    https://religionnews.com/2015/12/07/spotlight-its-not-just-a-catholic-problem/

    " A number of years ago, the three companies that insure most Protestant churches reported that receiving approximately 260 reports a year of minors being sexually abused by church leaders and members. This is compared to the approximately 228 “credible accusations” a year of child sexual abuse reported by the Catholic Church. "
     
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  5. uscvball

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    My point of view is not cynical, it's applicable and measured based on the source. The Catholic Church should not be delivering ethics training when the CEO isn't the first in line to get that training.

    I honestly don't know what you think is the "big event". 2002 is when the US, specifically the Boston Globe first reported on US abuse. However, priestly sexual abuse had been going on around the world and had been reported for quite some time. Children are children, American, Mexican, Filipino...it doesn't matter to me where they live.

    Victim-shaming at it's finest. "“Who would have believed me?” 83-year-old Robert Corby said in the film, as Philly.com reported. “A priest, in 1948 or ‘47, would abuse you?”


    "Why did you do this to me? I believe his answer would be, because I can, because I could."

    Who is we?

    Abrasive? Okay. I won't apologize for questioning a systemic process that has resulted in the ritual sexual abuse and lifetime suffering of thousands of people around the world. Do you really not understand why an adult wouldn't tell? Mostly, they don't think they'll be believed. They don't want to bring shame or embarrassment on themselves or their family. They don't want to re-live what they went through. As one victim said, "a collar is a trigger for me". Imagine what it would be like to tell in detail what you went through as a child, if you felt like you had tried to put it out of your mind.

    And from the same article.....

    "(Both numbers are much higher due to underreporting and the manner in which such information is collected and determined – that is another blog for another day.) In reality, the likelihood is that more children are sexually abused in Protestant churches than in Catholic churches. "

    So the author doesn't say how much higher either number is and the claim of more Protestant molestation is a "likelihood"? Sorry but that's not enough to claim some kind of moral high ground.

    Do you know where that data came from? From an article in 2007....."Responding to heavy media scrutiny, the Catholic Church has reported that since 1950, 13,000 “credible accusations” have been brought against Catholic clerics (about 228 per year.) The fact that this number includes all credible accusations, not just those that have involved insurance companies." So the very Church that is claiming low numbers is getting that 228 number from self-reporting (completely inaccurate) and from over a decade ago. Boz is a solid Christian guy but he's not a researcher nor a qualified writer on the topic or he wouldn't have included such data in his article.

    Consider facts...."Over the weekend the Archdiocese of Los Angeles agreed to pay $660 million to settle lawsuits from hundreds of sex-abuse victims. About $250 million will come out of the diocese bank account; $60 million will come from other religious orders and another $123 million from litigation with orders that chose to sit out the deal. Insurance companies will pay the remaining $227 million." So out of $660M, insurance only covered roughy 30%, so we have no actual comparable insurance data when considering Catholic abuse vs Presbyterian abuse. Based on that situation alone, I'd say the Church underestimated and should multiply their victims by at least 3 and add another multiplier for all those that went un-reported.
     
  6. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    There are a lot of predators in the world, period. You cannot imagine how many kids are molested by their own parents and step parents. In fact, there are far more parents who abuse their kids than priests. Not sure why we never hear about that in the news.
     
  7. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Now this ain't the church but here's another appalling abuse matter. How many (feel free to post an answer) realize how many female teachers are boning 14 yr olds? Not exclusively that age though. Some hotties too.

    Peep this.

    https://www.thebrofessional.net/bad-teachers/
     
  8. HalloweenRun

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    Damn. My kind of teachers. I taught with several hot ones, but I don’t think any of them were doing students.
     
  9. uscvball

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    Of course it's in the news and on TV....as is physical abuse, and lots of other crappy stuff that parents do to their kids. Try watching any chick talk show 5 days a week and that's about all you'll see. The difference is in the concerted effort to a) identify and lure victims, b) and the intentional cover-up by others, particularly when people in power are involved. That's why we see stories like Penn St, US Swim, US Gymnastics, US Equestrian....and just about any youth sport, school, or after-school program where predators obtain employment and target certain kids. The intentional effort and the often multiple victims per predator make the situation more pernicious.

    And yes, I can imagine.
     
  10. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    I was talking about the parental abuse not being covered.
     

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