Pre-Existing Conditions

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  1. shaqazoolu

    shaqazoolu Concentrated Awesome

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    UPS/FedEx compete with USPS in packages. They don't do standard letter delivery unless you pay WAY more than a stamp to ship it in a cardboard envelope.

    So yeah, the government can just take over regular checkups and the private sector can rely on surgeries and specialists...cuz that doesn't leave the door open for shady business. Yay...great plan.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Cake. Government can't compete.

    Eat it too. Industry cannot compete.

    What if it's not free and not competing with industry? Like people who are willing to pay for coverage of pre-existing conditions and can't get it privately. The government certainly isn't competing here! And the government charges a premium for assuming that risk.

    Or the working man who starts his own business and loses his group insurance. If the companies won't offer him affordable group rates, then the government isn't competing with them if they do.

    The only people who get something free out of this government insurance are the poorest, who are already getting free medical care at Charity Hospital. And maybe the veterans get something free, too. If they can get national health insurance that they can take to any doctor and to hospitals of their choice instead of the very poor VA hospital system, that's a good thing.

    I assume you cherry-picked a comment from a larger quote for a reason.
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    You argue for the sake of argument. You are delusional.

    You assumed wrong. I don't need to lie to make Obama look like an inexperienced fool. He's all talk.
     
  4. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    Not health care related, but something similar happened to me after Katrina. I had about 10k in non-water related wind damage. Insurance settled, but raised my rates to what equated to a 10K loan to be paid off in 4 years. I will have paid the 'loan' off in October. I wonder if my rates will go back to what they were, pre-Katrina. Yeah right.
     
  5. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    This case shows the need for insurance reform, which most of us are in agreement is needed, but it doesn't show the need for socialized medicine. Of course the 2 were unrelated and your claim should not have been denied. You did what you had to do to make it during that time and you are to be commended for it. That's a far cry from forcing someone who doesn't want to - to pay for it to help you out, right?
     
  6. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    For you Red this is a new low.

    No crap a private business can't compete with the govt. The govt. is a bottomless pit with no expectations of going into the green and certainly no shareholders or policyholders to answer to.

    Thus having a govt. option HURTS the private companies already in the SAME space that have expectations, a limit on capital, and people to answer to.

    The rules aren't the same.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    And you are emotional and illogical, Dr. McCoy.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You haven't lived, Scooter.
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Nice rebuttal.
     

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