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  1. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Red, your example conveniently leaves out the fact that a different price can be set and the loss on the profit can be any size thereby eliminating any effect of private advantage on efficiency. That is if Price and Profit are just plug in numbers for government, then how is it a disadvantage to run inefficiently.

    This time, try reading what people are posting and try to understand it instead of just dismissing it.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    maybe i can use a sports analogy.

    imagine i say that danica patrick cant compete with dan wheldon. that is true, she is a far worse driver. but he cant compete with her either in terms of marketability, because she is super duper famous for being a girl. she doesnt have to drive well. see, there are two different factors here. see?

    see how sometimes there is more than one factor to consider? crazy huh.

    exactly.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Too simple. It only accounts for half the issue--government doesn't have to show a profit. It doesn't account for the other half--private industry is more effective with a dollar.
     
  4. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Perhaps you should setup all the facts?
     
  5. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    You keep using the word effective.

    Could you define what you mean by that in this setting?

    B/c when it comes to profit/loss I'm assuming that we all agree the govt is not effective? Amtrak, USPS etc...
     
  6. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Ummm, no. Try again. If you get sick, you need to be protected. . .from whatever sickness that may be ailing you.
    You should pay closer attention. I'm not using it as an element of my argument. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in the mindset of the Christian right. But here you are, using it as a basis of your argument, like it's 'supposed to play some emotional role on people'. . .
    And if not, then what? Less fortunate people just have to suffer until they die?
    You seem to think that people choose to have jobs that don't pay well enough for them to get health insurance, or that don't provide health insurance.
     
  7. DarkHornet

    DarkHornet Louisiana Sports Fan

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    I agree the Christian beliefs are not often represented in the conservative arguments. As a Christian, you are to love everyone unconditionally and lead a service oriented life.

    Where I come to disagreement with you is on the thought that the government is the best conduit for charitable giving. Matter of fact, it can't really be called giving at all since they'll take it whether you have a giving heart are not.
     
  8. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Well, I'm not saying it's the best. But in the absence of some charitable organization, what else is there?
     
  9. DarkHornet

    DarkHornet Louisiana Sports Fan

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    Very true.
     
  10. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Of course they choose it. No one is forced to work a crappy job. The only entity that could force us to do this is government, and government doesn't do this.

    Every working person chose their job, and if they are not content with their lot it is on them to make it better. If your provider doesn't offer health insurance find a new employer. If you can't afford coverage get a different job. If you don't qualify for those jobs address the issue so you do. It is entirely a personal responsibility issue.

    I have never met a person that was forced to work at Burger King for their entire lives at gun point. I doubt I ever will. Let's stop treating people like they can't do for themselves.
     

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