PPACA (Obama Care) Upheld by SCOTUS

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  1. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    I believe this opens the door for future laws that will allow people to be 'taxed' for compliance. Roberts and Kennedy are now the only judges on the court not to legislate from the bench and they are conservative. Liberals can't be swayed.
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Page 197 line 15

    "Subpart B -- Surcharge on High Income Individuals"

    "General Rule -- In the case of a taxpayer other than a corporation, there is hereby imposed a tax equal to -- 1 percent of so much of the modified adjusted gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds $350,000 but does not exceed $500,000."

    1.5 percent of so much of the modified adjusted gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds $500,000 but does not exceed $1,000,000 and 5.4 percent of so much of the modified adjusted gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds $1,000,000."

    Taxing the rich again..

    Page 203 line 13:

    " NOT TREATED AS A TAX IMPOSED BY THIS CHAPTER FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES -- The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as a tax imposed by this chapter for purposes of determining the amount of any credit under this chapter or for purposes of section 5."
    o_O

    Page 249 Line 17:

    "MISVALUED CODES UNDER THE PHYSICIAN FEE

    " In General -- The Secretary shall -- periodically identify services as being potentially misvalued using criteria specified in clause (ii); and (II) review and make appropriate adjustmetns to the relative values established under this paragraph for services identified as being potentially misvalued under subclause (I)."

    http://www.examiner.com/article/health-care-bill-h-r-3200-read-it-online-now
     
  3. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    I think this could play INTO the Republicans' hands. Rally the troops.
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Got an example of Supreme Court liberals legislating from the bench? Or Clarence Thomas doing anything at all?

    Nonsense. Almost half the cases have been decided unanimously, and only about 20% decided by a 5-to-4 vote.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The rich are insured.

    Tell me, what exactly do you imagine this means.

    So what?
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The Republican troops have long been rallied. How is it going to help the GOP swing the moderates?
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    The individual mandate, really isn't a mandate. It says that you must buy health insurance, if you don't you will assessed a "tax", but there is no prosecution, nor are there any repercussions if you do not pay that "tax". So technically it really isn't even a mandate, it's more like an empty threat.
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    It's still a tax, added to the new medicare tax..
     
  9. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    let me rephrase. In voting records:

    The following my breakdown of most liberal to least liberal justices on the Supreme Court.

    Ginsberg: very liberal, consistently votes against the conservatives

    Sotomayor: consistently votes with the progressive bloc

    Kagan: has consistently voted with the liberal bloc since joining the bench, but still fairly unproven

    Breyer: usually votes with the liberal bloc, but has proven centrist in the past

    Kennedy: the swing vote; considered a conservative; sometimes votes with the liberal faction

    Alito: consistently conservative

    Roberts: consistently conservative

    Scalia: extremely conservative

    Thomas: extremely conservative



    Roberts put a dagger in the heart of conservatives today. His position has moved. Why are you picking on Thomas? Don't you pick on liberals, ever? No?

    I'm not Republican and have not voted Republlican since Bob Dole. I won't defend them. This is an amazing decision and one with reaching implications. I don't agree with it.
     
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  10. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    I dunno but I couldn't take that loss today without at least TRYING to salvage something. :D
     

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