Potential SEC Expansion Thread

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  1. LEGACY TIGER

    LEGACY TIGER Defy Yourself

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    I'm not sure we could get a perfect balance. Adding OU and aTm to the SECw then adding VT and FSU/UM/or GT to the SECe will most definately not give you balance. I think there might be some serious shuffling around if we add 4 teams. For now, though, what if we only see a 2 team increase. Lets say we add OU and aTm, I think the only way to add some sort of balance is those 2 get added to W and shuffle Auburn to the E. That would give the most balance IMHO.

    SECw

    LSU
    OU
    Bama
    aTm
    Ark
    Ole Miss
    Miss St

    SECe

    UF
    UGA
    Auburn
    UT
    USCe
    UK
    Vandy

    Not totally balanced, but I would be ok with this.
     
  2. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    makes it that much more rewarding to win the west!:D
     
  3. DarkHornet

    DarkHornet Louisiana Sports Fan

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    You've been around a long time Red. Don't you know these things are cyclical? Look at 99. Tennessee and Florida were the cream of the SEC. The West was horrible back then. Just a few years ago, the West was LSU/Auburn in rotation. Now Alabama looks unbeatable. If Oklahoma joined the West, I think things would eventually balance anyway. Perhaps Oklahoma slides some when they join the SEC?
     
  4. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Clemson should not be allowed anywhere near the SEC unless they change their mascot, their fight song, and the name of their stadium...

    ...I'm serious.
     
  5. pharpe

    pharpe Founding Member

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    This exactly right. You can't look at this as a snapshot in time. You have to look at a schools overall fan-base, tradition and marketability. If a school has a good football tradition and a strong following that means TV revenue, gameday attendance, and merchandise sales. Those things translate into $$$ to build facilities and hire top coaches. When you have all that you will eventually be on top. I think Va Tech and OU are a pretty even match in that regard.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, that's why I cited the All-time rankings, which is a better indicator of a programs success over the last 100 years.

    Let's say that Oklahoma is added to the west and FSU to the East. Those program rankings would be:

    SEC WEST
    Oklahoma - top 5
    Alabama - top 5
    LSU - top 10
    Auburn - top 25
    Arkansas - top 25
    Ole Miss (just misses at #26)
    State

    SEC EAST
    Tennessee - top 10
    Florida - top-25
    Georgia - top 25
    Florida State - top-25
    South Carolina
    Kentucky
    Vanderbilt

    But if they reorganize they could balance it better:

    SEC WEST
    Oklahoma - top 5
    LSU - top 10
    Auburn - top 25
    Arkansas - top 25
    Ole Miss (just misses at #26)
    State
    Vanderbilt

    SEC EAST
    Alabama - top 5
    Tennessee - top 10
    Florida - top-25
    Georgia - top 25
    Florida State - top-25
    South Carolina
    Kentucky
     
  7. DarkHornet

    DarkHornet Louisiana Sports Fan

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    Tradition is nice and all, but what happened 30 years ago is irrelevant to what will play out over time in the future. Florida State and Florida are not Top 10 according to that list. But I defy you to tell me that they are not to be considered elite programs? It's just that they've only been elite for the past 20 years. Their prestige may not be as good as that of Alabama and Oklahoma because of longevity, but that is no indication on how competitive of a program they'll be in the future.
     
  8. chewie

    chewie Glitched

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    Amen. This and they have to hire a real head coach.
     
  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    here you go:

    SEC West:
    Arkansas
    LSU
    Ole Miss
    Mississippi State
    Oklahoma
    Texas
    Texas a&m
    Texas Tech

    SEC East:
    Alabama
    Auburn
    Florida
    Georgia
    Kentucky
    South Carolina
    Tennessee
    Vanderbilt

    brutal, ditch Florida as the every year East opponent and pick up Alabama.
     
  10. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Thats not a bad idea, but switch Texas Tech with OU and Im onboard.
     
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