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  1. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    I swear you can't read.
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Oh I can, you are just crying.
     
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  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Everyone knows what the founders intended, but that was a very long time ago, things change and when they do outdated policy should be examined. I think the amount per state is really fucked up. North Carolina has 15 but Louisiana only has 8. Ohio has 20, Wisconsin only has 10. It needs to be reexamined. I also believe it's stupid that Louisiana has 2 senators and California has 2 senators, if your argument is that states should have a say based on their population you can't say one is right and the other isn't unless you are just partisan. I never said scrap it but I think those numbers per state should change.
     
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  4. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    JC did you see the graphic. If you kill the EC then 3 or 4 states decide the presidency. It's not outdated, it does exactly what it's supposed to do.
     
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  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    The numbers are outdated. Go back and read the rest of what I edited.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Here is the amount per state
     

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  7. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Whats outdated. You want CA to have more? I mean, be clear.
     
  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I think it needs to be looked at. For example North Carolina and Ohio have pretty similar populations and Ohio has 20 electoral votes North Carolina has 15. Why?
     
  9. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    Here's a quick, dirty analysis of the EC. I went back to 1992 because that's 24 years; roughly a generation, and its the first time Cali - the most powerful state in EC votes, went Democrat in its current trend....
    For 7 straight elections, the 3 West Coast states plus Hawaii have gone Democrat - 78 votes as of this year
    Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, North and South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma - straight GOP - 32 votes
    Minnesota and Illinois - Democrat - 30 votes
    In the deep South - Mississippi, Alabama and South Carolina all go GOP - 24 votes
    On the East Coast and New England - DC, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Vermont and Maine are Democrat - 88 votes
    All other states have flip-flopped their presidental votes at least once in the last 7 elections

    If current trends continue, that means we can assume the 2020 election begins with Democrats holding a 196-56 advantage in the EC. So why is it that only Democrats bitch that the thing is unfair when they lose?
     
  10. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    Electoral votes follow the state's representation in Congress. The states draw their own Congressional districts, and currently, NC is drawn for much larger populations per district than Ohio - 772,000 per district in NC compared to 728,000 in Ohio. The national average is 737,000 per district. (this is all from Wikipedia). It would take some serious gerrymandering to create a perfect division of districts. Montana, for example, has just over a million people but the state is its own Congressional district.
     

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