Play by play analysis of Randall and Russell...Results inside.

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  1. MikeD

    MikeD Sports Genius

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    One thing to remember about Favre's receivers catching, or 'adjusting', the ball more than the current LSU players is that they were professional athletes and were the cream of the crop of their respective college teams. Our guys should get better but there will always be drops if he throws it 80 mph.

    I can remember watching a Packers season recap from the Holmgren years when Brett is running out on the field and Holmgren says, "Brett, no rocket balls." Just a funny reminder that the quarterback needs to get the ball to the receiver but also get the ball in a catchable manner.
     
  2. ramah

    ramah Founding Member

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    :lol: This crap deserves an award ... The way others saw it ...

    http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/090604/lsu_wontsee001.shtml

    Before you e-mail Saban and tell him to give Russell the starting job and not look back, consider a few differences between the first and second halves Saturday. :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Randall took his first snap already trailing 6-0. The field was still slick from hard pregame rain. He played two quarters against a fresh Oregon State defense. :shock:

    Russell didn't begin having consistent success until the Beavers began tiring. The Oregon State defense has a little depth, but not much, especially on the line. The players rushing Russell played twice as many snaps as he did, and it showed at the end. :shock:

    Three hours after the rain stopped, the field wasn't as slick. Players were more sure of how to run, plant and cut. Down 9-0 with less than two quarters left, the Tigers played with a greater sense of urgency than when the game began.

    In the first quarter, LSU looked like a team running scripted offensive plays, with no regard to the downpour that took away its primary strength: speed and quick change of direction. :shock: :shock: :shock: :D

    In the second half, the Tigers seemed to do a better job of mixing the game plan with adjustments ...

    based on a more realistic analysis of the conditions. :cry: :cry: :cry:

    When you drive to the beach and it suddenly rains, you don't leave the umbrella in the car and grab the sunscreen because you planned all week to get a tan. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    The smartest thing I've ever heard ESPN's Lee Corso say is the rain took away LSU's speed advantage. Conditions do matter. Nobody rips a horse for not having the right mental toughness for a race on a wet track.

    There is a reason it's helpful to know on such days whether a horse is a mudder.

    LSU's offense is built for dry-land running, not the Wet Grass Miracle it somehow pulled off Saturday night.

    But back to the quarterback derby. Remember Matt Mauck's first start for LSU? How many of the offense's mistakes that day, in a 26-8 loss at Virginia Tech, were his fault, and how many were the fault of the players around him?

    If Joseph Addai doesn't jump early on the 57-yard pass play from Randall to Dwayne Bowe in the first half Saturday, a play erased by Addai's false start, Randall's numbers in regulation look a lot like Russell's numbers. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Saban and offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher have some decisions to make at quarterback. Perhaps the game showed them a way to use both players, or at least a clearer picture of what the offense should look like with each in the game. You can be sure Saban won't make an emotional choice, nor one that isn't rooted in reality and full context of what he saw Saturday.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Joe Addai had a couple of drops, but he matched Bowe with five receptions and he was getting open more than Green, so he got more balls thrown to him. He also had the highest yards-per-carry of all of the running backs at 6.5 yards. I think he had a good game, all things considered, better than anyone but Bowe.

    Right now, the number-two receiver is Addai.
     
  4. max

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    You forgot to mention that Randall had a hangnail Ramah. I'm glad you'll be there to excuse away all of the mistakes of your chosen players after each game. Who cares what The Advocate says? When did those newpaper writers become more of an authority on football than us?
     
  5. flabengal

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    I don't care how you dress it up, who's leading, tired db's, etc.....the fact is that Randall has a role to play on this team but it is NOT as the undisputed team leader........he's a role player, exactly what role I don't know, that's for the coaching staff to figure out but a blind man could see that Russell needs to be brought into the offense and in a hurry. I also think Flynn deserves his chance so the coaching staff has to pay the piper for not having their starting qb ready. It's a qb controversy and it's going to last for the majority of the season so get used to it.

    By the way did anybody watch the Tenn-UNLV game? Phat Phil seemed to have his qb situation a little more settled than ours so everybody that dismissed Tenn. as a factor in the SEC and discounted Fulmer and his staff should think again. The announcer even commented on how gutsy Fulmer was in naming the freshmen qb's as the starters early in camp. That way everybody on the team knew where they stood. They've got a system for rotating the two and they stick to it. I know it was just UNLV so I'm not talking about the final score or the performance of the qb's. My point is that the coaching staff made the decision to split time for the two freshmen and looked for other positions for CJ Leak. I think he came in as a running back last night and has practiced as a db from what I understand. I love Randall and want him to be able to contribute as much as the next guy but not everybody is cut out to be an SEC starting qb, it's not the end of the world. There are countless football players that come and go and don't get to be "the man" to lead their team as the quarterback, they aren't all worthless they just don't fit that role and Randall doesn't do well in that role.
     

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